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Does anyone remember???

There was a suspension tuner using a modified 954 shock as a starting point.

They were building a custom shock body since 954 were impossible to find.

 

It wasn't Cogent, and internet search found one of Eric's threads. Not supported anymore.

Does anyone remember the company name??

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2 hours ago, ptxyz said:

i believe it was these guys;

 

http://daughertymotorsports.com/

Yes

I also see that Traxion, and Cognet have products.

Plus shocks from wilbees, olins,penske, hyperpro (sp). And others are available.

I have reached out privately to some members who race to get their thoughts.

My knowledge is not good enough to know what is a good product / vendor or not.

I remember that using rebuilt 954 and the like shocks were marginal. Small shock, easier to overwhelm.

My POS SV came with a busa shock. A bigger shock that is too small because of the differences. In linkage.

This is one reason why I keep looking at suspension shop.

Pay for knowledge.

 

DMr and Cogent are on the top of my list.

I found a price list from DMr.  I have had good results from Cogent.

The challenge is finding products for a 20 year old bike, that I choose to afford.

 

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On 9/15/2020 at 6:25 AM, XXitanium said:

Has anyone ever heard of rebuilding the stock shock?

Yes, but you still won't have much adjustment.  That may not matter, if you only ride solo, and can maintain your weight.  Small compromise for saving big bucks.

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19 minutes ago, jon haney said:

Yes, but you still won't have much adjustment.  That may not matter, if you only ride solo, and can maintain your weight.  Small compromise for saving big bucks.

So, set it up for 250lbs and don't diet?

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22 hours ago, XXitanium said:

So, set it up for 250lbs and don't diet?

Thanks Bill.

 

I've actually gotten to 180 without gear. 😀

I remember Rick saying that the OEM shock was not the best to rebuild do some internals that can't be replaced.

DMr shows a shock without remote in the $700.00 range.

I have a couple other vendors that were recommended to check out.

My research found that I had asked a lot of the same questions before.   At that time, I was focusing on shocks with remotes.  Life and riding has changed, so the less costly option looks better now.

I even found a thread with Big Dave asking the same questions.

I should have had Chris pull Dave's shock after his off.  We had called dibs.

 

I appreciate the feedback.

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...I'm guilty of being obtuse once again, I'm 250.

 

What I meant (picking on myself) if you rebuild the stock shock, it still isn't adjustable. A question I had was, can the components at least be set for a target weight, or is it one-size-fits-all?

 

I have a stock shock out in my garage.

 

46 minutes ago, redxxrdr said:

I've actually gotten to 180 without gear. 😀

 

 

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I was joking about my changing size as well.

 

An older response from Rick at Cogent was that a OEM was a poor choice. 

It required a nitrogen fill fitting, and one of the internals was built in a way that it could not be rebuilt.  Now that was a 6 year old thread, I'm going to ask if things have changed.

 

Rick set my fork rebuild for my size back when. They gave a noticeable ride difference.  But the bike still hobby horses on certain roads.

My problem is that my skills aren't good enough to know a good ride from a great ride.

10 to 15 years ago, I thought that I needed full adjustable everything.  Now I rarely do pillion, or track days.  I hope to find a economical shock, set by a good tuner for my size. 

Why have all the extra adjustments, if I am not capable to use them.

I do know that a undersized OEM at 60k miles could be better.

 

I plan to call a few places next week and ask.

Our XX is pretty old now.  But second generation owners are starting to ask the same questions that we asked originally.

I hope that there are improved products now.

And yes, the good tuners can set the shock to the correct response for your size and riding style. 

You just can't fine tune like the big boys.

I know that I could never set SAG correctly at 240 lbs and the stock spring.

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There’s a guy here in Knoxville that does that sort of stuff, I recall. He is a racetrack gypsy-type guy that is well respected. I used him to rebuild my forks years ago. I know (about) where he lives. Vern may know more. Reach out to him, I will look for some more info on him.

I have a spare shock  for the rebuild if you decide to do it. I could take yours as a core. If it ever happens, of course.

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i have had the oem shock rebuilt on my 99.it was revalved and resprung.i run it on the soft setting when riding solo and adjust it harder depending on luggage and pillion.ive been really happy with it and to be honest the lack of a shitload of adjustment is good for me as i understand the theory of suspension adjustment i just can't put it into practice.

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2 hours ago, rockmeupto125 said:

Try Vinnie at proline race prep. Tell him you are part of the racerxx group.

 

 

Joe

Are they based out of Lake City Florida?

Thanks

 

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