Dano Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 My 02 now has 4k miles on it. I'm planning on switching to synthetic oil. I've heard Wal Mart is the place to go. Which brand do they carry, that you guys recommend. Is there a trick to switching. i.e. change oil and filter and just fill er up with synthetic. Do I have to worry about residual dino oil mixing with the new stuff? Thanx for the input.. db Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConqSoft Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 I use Motul 300V synthetic. I wouldn't recommend getting your oil from Wal-Mart. Get a synth. oil made for motorcycles. I switched at 3k miles on my XX. (Waited until 10k on my 929) I didn't think the XX tranny could get smoother, but it did with synth oil. Just do a full oil/filter change when you make the switch. Nothing special to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 Mobil 1 15w50 is motorcycle-safe. I buy the large jug at Wal-Mart for $17.88. You can also buy the Purolator One oil filters there for about $3, which is widely known as one of the best filters ever made. I think it's actually sold under the Wal-Mart name. The one for the RX-7 is a perfect fit, but longer with more filtering material (I haven't used these yet, my brother has been using them for years). I've been a Mobil 1 user for 15 years. Last bike went 130k miles on M1 before I sold it still running fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConqSoft Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 I haven't searched here, but I'm sure the Great Oil Debate has gotten as much bantering here as it has on about every other motorcycle site. Everyone is going to have their own opinion, so your best bet is to force yourself to read through all the BS and make your own decision. For me, I bought a $10k bike, so I don't mind spending $9 for the OEM Honda filter, and $35/Gallon for a good, motorcycle-specific, synth oil. It's worth the peace of mind, to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 There is nothing like good oil flame wars.Mobil 1 here,yes from Walmart,I`ve never bought motorcycle spec oil in my life. Cheapo car spec 10W/40 during brake in then Mobil 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XX Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Mobil 1 - me too :grin: uh oh, here we go :shock: :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Marc Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 I use WD-40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookman49 Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Mobil 1 15w50 Here too! Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConqSoft Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Wesson isn't bad either. And it's probably even cheaper if you buy it in 50 gallon drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Involute Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Marvel Mystery oil is the only way to go. I use it in all my stuff. Engine, forks, auto tranny, rear diff, transfer case. I charge my A/C with it, fill my tires and it makes a fine mouthwash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIM Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Since you mentioned Walmart.... I use Shell Rotella T Synthetic 5w-40. for 4 str. mc or diesel engines, less friction modifiers. SL SF SG safe. buy it by the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimXX Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Hi XXers, I have never used motorcycle oils and have had my FJ1100 running well since 1985. Here is a comparison test of bike and car oils that I came across. As you can see, Mobil is still the best synthetic for bikes or cars. Motorcycle oil comparison Relative Viscosity Retention (as a percentage of initial viscosity retained after normal use in the same motorcycle) 0 miles 800mi 1500mi Mobil 1 100% 86.60% 83.00% Car oil Synthetic Castrol Syntec 100% 78.10% 74.50% Car oilSynthetic Castrol GTX 100% 72.20% 68.00% Car oil Petroleum Honda HP4 100% 69.20% 65.60% Motorcycle oil Synthetic Spectro 4 100% 68.00% 63.90% Motorcycle oil Petroleum Pardon the strange formatting. TimXX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Marc Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 I am using the Shell Rotella Synthetic too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrated Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Dyno oil until around 8K miles then I switched to Mobil 1 15w-50. I don't have any history with the Mobil 1, other that my present bike, the XX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 I like to twist the grip from a standing start and worry about Synthetic oil with the clutch plates running in the oil. If this stuff is soooo slippery, do you think it will help the clutch plates lock up? I change oil often so I use the stuff from the ground that isn't energy conserving. I have read in a Mustang magazine that synthetic oil in the T-5 has burned up the sycro's in the trannsmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIM Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 From the perspective of 'Walmart' , not the National Oil Debate League.... I'm only relaying what Shell wrote to another person I know who inquired about Rotella and using it on a busa (I have the letter) and I'm no oil expert at all, but on the Rotella but I'll pass this along the jist of it: Rotella T Synthetic contains retains higher phosphourous and zinc content, which was reduced by ILSAC requirements (EPA I think). , also, it's not an 'energy conserving oil'. The "diesel" or "heavy duty oil" synthetic oil like Rotella (which Shell wrote is a good oil for bikes like the busa) contains LESS friction modifiers than most others. Notice i didn't write 'no friction modifiers' I think all oils have FM. it's a matter of degree. In reality I think think this is important if you race, not sure if street duty really demands this, who knows. Another good diesel oil which I've heard is as good is the Mobil Delvac 1300 15w-40. I think the POINT for ME was: 1. generally viewed as a very good oil, safe for high demanding motors & WET clutches 2. ECONOMICAL (since it's an 'automotive oil') 3. the can is NOT labelled 'energy conserving oil'! 4. feedback from mc riders who actually have used it Rotella meets CF4 CG4 CH4 SH SJ SL SF SG. (read, warranty safe) Works for me , might blow up your bike, so I'm not responsible :grin: make your own informed decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spEEdfrEEk Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 Do0d! Canola and a coffee filter is all ya need! Ya dopes! :cool: TJ :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 I use Shell Rotella T Synthetic 5w-40. Both the Mobil 1 and the Rotella have a great--no, PERFECT--history with all the serious high-mileage guys. Either will serve you just fine. There are probably hundreds of thousands of BMW guys using one or the other, since they value high miles between service. My brother has been using Rotella for years since he's a big-rig mechanic and has it around. He uses the Wal-Mart filters and Rotell exclusively on all his bikes, customers' bikes, friends' bikes... Peace of mind...I'd agree if there was any question at all. But both of those oils are so well-proven by high-mileage riders. My last bike, as I said, was sold with 130k miles, all on Mobil one since about 10k. Never had an engine issue, sold it running fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar10dah Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 I use Mobil 1 15w50 too. http://www.ducatimeccanica.com/oil.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookman49 Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 bar10dah, thanks for posting that link. That was one of the best I have read on oil yet. Looks like I stick with Mobil 1 :grin: Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Involute Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 You can also buy the Purolator One oil filters there for about $3, which is widely known as one of the best filters ever made. Â I think it's actually sold under the Wal-Mart name. Â The one for the RX-7 is a perfect fit, but longer with more filtering material (I haven't used these yet, my brother has been using them for years). Carlos, what filter do you get from Wal-Mart for the XX in lieu of the RX-7 filter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 I've been using the K&N filters made for the XX. I do trades with a local bike shop so I have a bunch of parts stock and trade credit. I'll end up using the RX-7 filter when that runs out. I discovered the RX-7 filter thing by accident. I have an RX-7, and mixed up the filters one day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar10dah Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 What are the K&N and Purolator part numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaXX Posted April 21, 2003 Share Posted April 21, 2003 Carlos, if it is a "longer" filter, it must be a bitch to fit behind the headers??? MaXX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXX Posted April 21, 2003 Share Posted April 21, 2003 Has anyone tried Amsoil motorcycle specific synthetic oil? It runs about $6.50/quart direct and you can also purchase their filters for about half of what Honda wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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