jimmystartup Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Here is a list of oil filters that will fit on the 97-01 Birds. It came from http://www.micapeak.com/bike/ST1300/FilterXRef.html These motorcycles all use the same spin-on filters with 20 x 1.5mm threads, 14 psi by-pass valve, anti-drain back valve, gasket diameter approximately 2.3 inches, O.D. approximately 2.75 inches, length approximately 2.5 to 3.5 inches. If your bike has a lot of room around the oil filter, I suggest the longer models. Motorcycle-Specific Filters. · AC Delco PF2135 about $10. · AMSOil SMF103, about $9. · FRAM PH6017A about $7. · Honda 15410-MCJ-000, about $12. · K&N KN-204, about $13. Has a metric nut on the end for easy removal. · NAPA Gold 1358, Carquest 85358, WIX 51358 about $7 to $8. · Purolator Motorcycle ML16817 about $6. Imported, not made by Purolator. · STP SMO 07, about $7. Automobile Filters, about 2.5 inches long · Mobil M1-108, about $12. · Purolator Pure One PL14612 about $6. · Bosch 3300 about $6. About 64mm, doesn't quite fit oil filter wrenches. A real pain. · WalMart SuperTech ST6607 about $2. Made by Champion. · AC Delco PF1237 about $6. · NAPA Gold 1365 about $6. · Purolator L14622 about $4. · STP S-02876 about $3. · Baldwin B1400. · Hastings LF113. Automobile Filters, about 3.25 inches long · Bosch 3323 about $6 · Mobil 1 M1-110 about $10 · Purolator Pure One PL14610 about $6 · Purolator L14610 about $4 · NAPA Gold 1356, Carquest 85356, WIX 51356 about $6 · Deutsch D-370 about $4 · AC Delco PF-2057 about $6 · Motorcraft Long Life FL-821 about $4 · STP S-02867 about $3 · FRAM, Castrol, Penske 7317 about $3 · Baldwin B1402. · Hastings LF240. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spEEdfrEEk Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 The AMSOIL filter is the one I chose while dynoing several times. Seems to have done a good job, as my oil is still quite clean.. :cool: TJ :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Thanks Jimmy, I think I'll try a Wix or Purolator pure 1 next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbrdrydr Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Since the XX uses the exact same oil filter as the GL1500 Goldwing, it's easiest to buy a case of 10 from one of the hundreds of places that sell Goldwing stuff. I think that the last case of OEM filters that I bought cost around $59 or so which makes the cost of a genuine Honda oil filter $5.90 which is pretty decent. I wouldn't even dream of using something other than a Honda oil filter on my XX. Saving a couple of bucks just isn't worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furbird Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 No offense, but I'm pretty sure Honda does not make even their own oil filters. Even if they do, all you are getting is a 3 dollar part that they mark up to $10 and stamp Honda on it. I have been running Fram's, but now that this chart came out, I will buy the longest oil filter I can get and the best quality one. A company that makes nothing but filters is going to be a whole lot better at making them than people who build the whole friggin bike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbrdrydr Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 No offense, but I'm pretty sure Honda does not make even their own oil filters. Even if they do, all you are getting is a 3 dollar part that they mark up to $10 and stamp Honda on it. BUT... if that filter ever fails and the name Honda is stamped on it, I won't have a problem getting my seized motor replaced under warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmike Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 .. and the 'Bird share oil filters (as well as the GL1500)... and front/rear brake pads (types of aftermarket pads are quite prolific) as well... :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furbird Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 If you're oil filter fails and takes out your motor, then you don't replace the filter enough, and Honda will still blame you for it. There's nothing in an oil filter that could fail catastrophicly enough to take out an engine. Even if it split or ruptured, you would have serious traction issues and the oil light come on LONG before that motor let go. But hey, if you want to keep paying Honda $10 for a $3 filter, then you go right ahead. I'll keep on using Honda GN4 oil even though people tell me I don't have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbrdrydr Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 But hey, if you want to keep paying Honda $10 for a $3 filter, then you go right ahead. Thankfully, I only paid $5.90 and not $10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1dR3d Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 Ive been using cheap STP motorcycle filters on my bird for a long time. no truobles at all I think it is a MO 17 and I use Castrol synth blend Frequent oil changes, every 3 miles or sooner some times 1999 well over 50K miles, runs like a top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 Frequent oil changes, every 3 miles Damn, that must make long trips a bitch, pulling over every three miles for an oil change :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 Damn, that must make long trips a bitch, pulling over every three miles for an oil change I think you could skip the filter change to every other one and just do the oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 I have been running Fram's, :shock: That's the biggest piece of shit on the market! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarnyk Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 I've been told a number of times that Fram is the worst and Wix is the best by some pretty credible sources(in my book anyways). Since I don't have time to do the research on my own, I'll stick with the Honda filter and oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaBird Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 " K&N KN-204, about $13. Has a metric nut on the end for easy removal. " I think you means the KN-303, slighly different shape---the 204 is a 929/954 filter http://www.knfilterchargers.com/search/appsearch.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVLXX Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 Napa Gold, bought 12, $3.77 each...... aaaaaaaa can't tell ya how I got them that cheap, but I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimyz250 Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 why are frams the worst?.. evidence? just askiing cause I have used them in my cars forever and now have one in the bird cause they are the easiest to get. but if I have some evidence to back up not to use em, I will not use em, but then again I wont take a "well billy bob said so" excuse like chevy is better than ford.. when its just personal opinion.. so.. why are frams the worst?.. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 Check the "FAQ" section of the main site for an excellent article on oil filters. The Fram's are nothing more than cardboard and glue inside, whereas most quality filters use real valves, silicone gaskets and proper filtering media. I've been using the Delco's, simply because they are easy to come by (for me), and half the price of the factory filters, as well as being a quality filter. Plus, they're blue, like my bike. :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suf Daddy Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 Thanks for the list of filters. This newbie paid $14 for an OEM at the Honda Depot in Rye NH. smoked.................... -Suf Daddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 There are some good oil filters...Fram is not one of them. I restarted my RX-7 after car had been sitting for about a year,,,,oil filter exploded,,,,corroded at the base,,,,made by Fram,,,,POS. I use Hi-Flow just because it is convenient for me. 5 bucks from Chaparral,they look and smell like O.E.M piece,even the part # is somewhat similar-HF 303. Guys from 1888fast lap claim 1-2 hp gain and superior filtering.(WHo does not ?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 Fram had a problem a few years back with the can seperateing from the base with the inevitable result of a wreck. Happened to several bikes, with lawsuits etc. I've been useing purolator bike filters, no probs. With all the cross building going on, this co. makeing 3 brands of filters, who knows what you're buying. :roll: :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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