SwampNut Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Jesus, pretty much nobody understands that an 8" drop does NOT equal an 8" rise (which is what I need). Two places said they had them, neither actually did (8" drop only). One trailer specialist assures me they actually have one marked 8" rise. Idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmeupto125 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/trailers-towing/hitches-receivers/8-in-1-adjustable-ball-mount-hitch-95991.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furbird Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I really don't understand why you would need an 8" rise on anything. Much less anything Carlos would own. Hell, my Ram Air Formula has a straight draw bar on it for my utility trailer. Unless we're talking about one of those camper trailers with a lift kit and 44" super swampers you need to move with the Tesla for a meme 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Furbird said: I really don't understand why you would need an 8" rise on anything. Much less anything Carlos would own. Hell, my Ram Air Formula has a straight draw bar on it for my utility trailer. Unless we're talking about one of those camper trailers with a lift kit and 44" super swampers you need to move with the Tesla for a meme 🤣 The Tesla hitch is pretty damn low so I'm not surprised that it needs a lot of rise for a normal height trailer. My Jeep needed about a 17" drop for my Talon trailer so I built it. Figures that we would be the rare ones needing odd-ball hitch mounts. Edited May 28, 2023 by superhawk996 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 Trailer is 18" to be level, like most small trailers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 3 hours ago, rockmeupto125 said: https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/trailers-towing/hitches-receivers/8-in-1-adjustable-ball-mount-hitch-95991.html That's my backup plan if the other one doesn't work out for some reason. The HF store, when called, said it's in the system and they cannot put their hands on it, no idea why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Knievel Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 7 hours ago, rockmeupto125 said: https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/trailers-towing/hitches-receivers/8-in-1-adjustable-ball-mount-hitch-95991.html Along those lines, I was wondering, “what stops you from buying the drop hitch and inserting it upside down with the ball installed accordingly?” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Zero Knievel said: Along those lines, I was wondering, “what stops you from buying the drop hitch and inserting it upside down with the ball installed accordingly?” Nothing, I use them that way with most of my vehicles. His issue is getting one with enough rise. Carlos, a solution might be to get a ball with a long shank and spacer it. I've got a lot of balls (for towing) so I haven't shopped in a long time, but I've bought some that had really long shanks and I've used them for adjusting height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Zero Knievel said: Along those lines, I was wondering, “what stops you from buying the drop hitch and inserting it upside down with the ball installed accordingly?” That's what you do, and it's why I made this post. An adapter with a 10" drop has about an 8.25 rise. So when people said yes they had an 8" rise, they actually had an 8" drop. They assumed that meant 8" rise too. No, that's about 6.25 or 6.5, ish. I tested a 6.25 rise and the trailer was canted down quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 2 hours ago, superhawk996 said: Nothing, I use them that way with most of my vehicles. His issue is getting one with enough rise. Carlos, a solution might be to get a ball with a long shank and spacer it. I've got a lot of balls (for towing) so I haven't shopped in a long time, but I've bought some that had really long shanks and I've used them for adjusting height. I don't know if there are variables with other brands, but the long-shank versions that U-Haul had on hand were only maybe 1" higher. I really think I need a 9" rise (according to the online calculators) but was settling for 8. While I'd rather just have a solid one, for no reason I can actually verbalize, I think I will take Joe's advice and just go try HF in person today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 12 hours ago, SwampNut said: I tested a 6.25 rise and the trailer was canted down quite a bit. Easy solution, load all the weight at the back of the trailer. The rear will lower, the front will rise. With enough weight the Tesla will have a proper hot-rod stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 12 hours ago, SwampNut said: While I'd rather just have a solid one, for no reason I can actually verbalize Time to put that welder to use. 12 hours ago, SwampNut said: I think I will take Joe's advice and just go try HF in person today. I looked at it a while back, it's pretty decent. I know there was an issue about them not being able to find it when you called, if your closest store doesn't have them they can check others for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Knievel Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 3 hours ago, superhawk996 said: Time to put that welder to use. That’s an option. If you have a metal worker near you, buy the best one you can find and have him fabricate it to be the size you need. Properly done, it should be more than strong enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furbird Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 7 hours ago, superhawk996 said: Easy solution, load all the weight at the back of the trailer. The rear will lower, the front will rise. With enough weight the Tesla will have a proper hot-rod stance. It's a good thing that (so far) the only people that have replied here are aware of your sarcasm, due to your lack of emoji that some of us are required to use lest ours be missed by it's subtlety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 11 hours ago, superhawk996 said: Easy solution, load all the weight at the back of the trailer. The rear will lower, the front will rise. With enough weight the Tesla will have a proper hot-rod stance. It was funny, the guy at U-haul did not look like he would know anything. Very preppy/Chad, very nice clothing, and when I mentioned the angle thing he started to say the same thing you did. When he saw the look on my face, he said he was kidding. He'd figured out I knew better and could take a joke. He was shockingly knowledgeable. They had four in stock, $45 minus 25% coupon. I sprung for the $2 light tester, even though I'd tested with a meter, just for the hell of it. No fires, lights work. I held my breath when I connected to this supposed 12v (not 400v) terminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 12 hours ago, superhawk996 said: Easy solution, load all the weight at the back of the trailer. The rear will lower, the front will rise. With enough weight the Tesla will have a proper hot-rod stance. Just lower pressure in trailer's tires till is leveled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmeupto125 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I really neglected to think this through completely. You might have been able to use a smaller and lighter hitch with an extended ball. But I do think the HF hitch is a good purchase. It's adjustable enough for you to figure out what really works, is cheap enough for a throwaway or use it for miscellaneous metal stock when you're done. If it works but has too much slop for you, just set it where it's right and weld it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 Yeah, I was also considering bolts for the up/down holes if it's annoying. I have an anti-wobble/slop plate for the actual receiver connection, somewhere around here. Either way though, I'm confident that my trip this Friday with the trailer won't be terrible. Now, how often will I need to charge in 370 miles, and for how long... Worst cas......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 10 hours ago, SwampNut said: Now, how often will I need to charge in 370 miles, and for how long... What are you dragging? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Knievel Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, blackhawkxx said: What are you dragging? I’d guess 40+ years of emotional baggage. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted May 30, 2023 Author Share Posted May 30, 2023 4 hours ago, blackhawkxx said: What are you dragging? New table saw and router table combo on a U-Haul 5x8 trailer. Estimated around 700-800 pounds for the saw, and a little more for the trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 4 hours ago, SwampNut said: Estimated around 700-800 pounds for the saw Wow, that is more saw than I thought from the other thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmeupto125 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, blackhawkxx said: Wow, that is more saw than I thought from the other thread. I thought you saw that coming. 🤪🤪🤪🤪 Yeah, bolts will tighten that up a wee bit. HF also sells a hitch anti-wobble plate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted May 30, 2023 Author Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just the router table top itself is 112 pounds. The main saw cabinet with top is 518. These peoples' motto is "when good enough isn't enough." Add in the extension tables, and other accessories. I'm going to break it down to the main cabinet only while on the trailer, and have five people scheduled to help unload it. My old one was "only" 500-ish total, with everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furbird Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Real saws weigh real weight. My Grizzly I took off the trailer with the car lift and it's the "small" one. They put it on the trailer with a forklift. I don't know what Carlos is getting but that's "conveys with the house" weight. Like my safe. I moved it once; that bitch ain't moving again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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