Involute Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Well, I chickened out of doing the work myself and had someone look at my valves for me. I took it to an Engine Builder for one of the local Hot Shot Racers that was recommended to me. I don’t have specifics yet but he said the valve clearances were out of Spec. Since he was in there I had him adjust all of them to the high end of the Spec so I can get another 45K before I have them checked again. That is unless I hear they were dangerously tight, in which case I’ll have them checked sooner. I was hoping for a clean bill of health. I’m a little disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrich Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 It's OK little fella, this soon shall pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Involute Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 I know.........Fucker I just wanted to be like Joe and Dale. I wanted 75-100+K before they needed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rockmeupto125 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 If I ever had anyone adjust my valves for me, I'd request to know what the measurements before and after were. Which is probably why I wouldn't in the foreseeable future let anyone do it. I've found too many folks that seem to feel a valve check is a license to extract money from the customer. One of the rationales offered was with the cost of just checking valves, people are much less upset about spending the money if they actually needed some of them adjusted. Either way, a valve check is an open opportunity to score money from somebody. Sorry to hear that yours were in need of adjustment. But now you're the member of an elite, very limited group! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willxx23 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 I took it to an Engine Builder for one of the local Hot Shot Racers that was recommended to me. I don't have specifics yet but he said the valve clearances were out of Spec. Since he was in there I had him adjust all of them to the high end of the Spec so I can get another 45K before I have them checked again. Yer such a tool :icon_shhh: Nexxt time bring da bird to me for your "adjustment" :icon_slap: Betcha I screw ya for less money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Well, I chickened out of doing the work myself What're you afraid of, ya pussy? Chris' were out a bit at lower milage, J's were out too, had a few out on mine at 41k. Yep, elite company Let me know what it ends up costing, if you don't mind. I'm curious what I saved doing it myself, as it did turn out to be kind of a PITA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Involute Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Fuck you Will. You couldn't even change your damn Brake Pads in Reno You got a Grudge Fuck heading your way now. Tim, I was quoted $90 to inspect and $150 if the Cams needed to come out. That is not a Dealer though. I don't know the guy thats actually doing the work but he has a good reputation with some of the local Racers and Track guys. We'll see if the Bill stays the same when I go to pick it up. Based upon a few comments I heard I don't think he was planning on it being the PITA it was as he's never done an XX before. Hopefully he'll stick to his original quote. I'm supposed to get info on what was out and by how much when I pick up the bike. I was told that he adjusted all the clearances to the high limit. Granted, I'm going on faith here. I'm also paying $90 to get it jetted. I'm planning on a $250 or so Bill. Assuming he's good (and honest) I think it's worth it. BTW, I have right at 44k on the bike now. Can post more info as I get it if you folks are interested. I'll probably pick up the bike and pay the Piper this weekend. Pussy -> Scot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 \ I was quoted $90 to inspect and $150 if the Cams needed to come out. That is not a Dealer though. Shit the local stealer near me wanted about $400 to look and adjust as needed. No price for just a measurement. Pay for it all whether it needs an adjustment or not. :icon_doh: Tim; someone stole your cams.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Tim, I was quoted $90 to inspect and $150 if the Cams needed to come out. Even if that goes up a bit, excellent deal. Having done it now, I'd jump on that if I trusted the mechanic. Tim; someone stole your cams.... Fucking Mexicans..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodantking Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 After you pick it up, let me know how he treated you and a contact # Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccriderXX Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Yes that is a great price. I am with you guys, I hate taking my bike to any shop. At the end of last summer I wanted to get my Interceptor's valves adjusted quick. I went to a shop I trusted (Gervasi's) and ended up paying $371. On that bike you don't have to pull the cams as it screw adjusters. Oh well, the cams are in great condition and now the valves are adjusted. Now I need to finish cleaning the carbs. Oh, yeah, they quoted $750 to clean the carbs. I think I could just about buy a new set for that price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Since he was in there I had him adjust all of them to the high end of the Spec so I can get another 45K before I have them checked again. I am questioning that part. So few have needed ANY adjustment that we haven't established if the "norm" is getting tighter or looser with time. I agree with Joe, it's too easy to give them your bike, they lean it in the corner of the shop for a week and charge you $400. There's just no way to know what actually happened. IF I had a shop do it I'd want to be there for the whole procedure. So why at 65k are mine still perfect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rockmeupto125 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 On a bucket/shim system like the XX's, normal wear should produce only a tighter clearance. Looser means you are losing metal from someplace that you don't want to hear about....like the cam lobe. Once that hardening wears through, the base metal ain't long for this world. While its disconcerting to think of your valves and seats wearing, THAT is normal engine wear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willxx23 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Fuck you Will. You couldn't even change your damn Brake Pads in Reno You got a Grudge Fuck heading your way now. I didn't say I knew how to adjust them just that I'd look at them and charge you for it. Grudge fuck, any fuck is good by me.......... :icon_pray: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red J Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 So why at 65k are mine still perfect? Because you blow through tires like a maniac and the valves staying put is your karma? Between valves and tires, I'll take the valve adjustment, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimothyPilgrim Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Being a noobie XX owner, I'm curious what others are getting by way of clearances. My bike is at 22,000 kms (13665 miles) and the Haynes manuals says to check them in another 2000 kms. I'm wondering if I should even bother. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Involute Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 Being a noobie XX owner, I'm curious what others are getting by way of clearances. My bike is at 22,000 kms (13665 miles) and the Haynes manuals says to check them in another 2000 kms. I'm wondering if I should even bother. Tim My vote would be "no". I'll worry about mine every 30-40K miles from here on in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X1rider Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 When I worked for Moto Sports Honda south of Atlanta, the service manager had his '01 XX checked @ 32K miles just for saftey, etc. This guy dogged the crap out of it all the time riding wheelies, listening to the Mig High mount pipes at 130+ mph et al. Guess what? Valves all in spec. I run synthetic oil and coolant so I hope I don't to worry about mine untill about 50K miles. At 32K now. :icon_clap: :icon_clap: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Good to hear guy's so 45,000kph if I still have the bb I'll worry about them, so far only 15,000kph (2003) ZX10 was done at 70,000kph and gained 15% more power but one rattled which really anoyed me, I could'nt trust the stealer so left it as it was, sold now, still miss her though. Hey you guy's really get into the nitty gritty dont you, guess you love the XXBB, best bike I ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 The best yet 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodantking Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 They are talking miles not kph. Even better news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnoGecko Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Ya, I'd like to know how far "out of spec" they were before and after too. The gentlemen I bought my VFR from had them done at 35,000 and the shop wrote down the before and after specs for all four, which put my mind at ease. Only 1 of them was out, and it was barely, barely out. Whats the largest amount someone has had their valves be out? I can't remember anything having a valve be way out of spec... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharknes Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 On a bucket/shim system like the XX's, normal wear should produce only a tighter clearance. Looser means you are losing metal from someplace that you don't want to hear about....like the cam lobe. Once that hardening wears through, the base metal ain't long for this world. While its disconcerting to think of your valves and seats wearing, THAT is normal engine wear. well i'm lost, if a shim wears the valve doesn't open as far as it should and you get noise as the cam lobe slaps the shim due to the larger gap, can someone explain what "tighter means" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red J Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 If the valve wears into the seat, or if the valve gets tulipped excessively, then the clearance can decrease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 tulipped That made me hard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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