Nova Scotia Mike Posted Monday at 03:43 PM Posted Monday at 03:43 PM Hi, So ~ 2.5 years ago I bought a lightly used 2017 F-150, Lariat 4x4 CrewCab with small (5.5) box. I need tires now and am thinking about saving some $'s by buying used. On the truck (and worn out now & one has a nail in the shoulder) are 275/55/R20 (113T) all season Goodyear Wranglers with some sort of Kevlar component. The door jamb sticker also indicates I need a 275/55/R20 (113T). I have found a set of Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza on the local used market that are 275/55/R20 (113T), used for one season and came off a Wrangler. When I look on the Bridgestone tire finder tool on their website it looks like the used tire set I found is indicated to fine if my truck is 4x4 but not suitable if my truck is 4x4 * "with Heavy Payload Package". I don't know how to tell with certainty if my truck has a heavy payload package or not. I might try calling the deal with my VIN to see if they can help. If I find my truck does have the heavy payload package, is it completely dumb to put these tires on regardless? My truck has never been worked in my ownership, I'm an office worker and the most it has towed is a weekend warrior small utility trailer. New, I'm looking at $1500-$2000 for a set of 4, these used tires are $400 ... there are not many used options for 20" tires locally ... Any and all help appreciated Quote
Nova Scotia Mike Posted Monday at 05:15 PM Author Posted Monday at 05:15 PM Update: dealership called me back and verified via my VIN that I am not with HD payload package. Going to check out the one season used tires ... Quote
XXitanium Posted Monday at 08:29 PM Posted Monday at 08:29 PM Check the year of manufacture also. Tire Rack 1 Quote
superhawk996 Posted Tuesday at 02:52 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:52 AM You're done, but this is for the future or other people. The weight rating doesn't matter if you don't use it. Even if you have the "heavy payload package" the lower rated tires will be fine, you just won't be able to use the truck's maximum weight capacity without exceeding the tire's capacity. 1 2 Quote
SwampNut Posted Tuesday at 01:01 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:01 PM This is what I did on the Rivian in both weight rating and speed rating. Some idiots were freaked out about it, because it's a magic number or something. Softer tires ride better. Same as I had done on my 2500. I do have to keep under 117 MPH I think? 1 1 Quote
superhawk996 Posted Tuesday at 01:40 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:40 PM 31 minutes ago, SwampNut said: I do have to keep under 117 MPH I think? AT 117.1 they all disintegrate. There are lots of opinions on what a speed rating is, I say opinion because asking/googling reveals several different answers, even from tire manufacturers/distributors. What I've always believed is that it's the maximum sustained speed a tire can handle at full load before heat buildup becomes a problem. For that to be true and have any degree of accuracy I think there would have to be an ambient test temperature and I've never seen that. 1 Quote
superhawk996 Posted Tuesday at 02:30 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:30 PM Tire talk lead me down a small rabbit hole and I landed on a video from CNBC explaining how EVs are a gold mine for tire companies because they wear tires faster. One of the reasons given was regen braking because when you let off the pedal on a gas car they coast, but EVs go into regen which adds tire wear. Fucking morans. 1 Quote
SwampNut Posted Tuesday at 03:17 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:17 PM Jesus fuck. AnD tHEy'Re SO hEAvy. I've also seen that explanation on speed ratings, and thought it was rated at 70F. There's also a delamination thing they talk about. The load would have to go with it, because full speed with full load is gonna be very different from unloaded. Quote
Nova Scotia Mike Posted Tuesday at 05:15 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 05:15 PM 20 hours ago, XXitanium said: What are you hauling/towing? Jack squat. Homeowner shit at most, spring/fall yard maintenance, dirt bikes. 20 hours ago, XXitanium said: Check the year of manufacture also. Tire Rack Good call out, will check! 14 hours ago, TOXXIC said: Buy them! I did! They looked new, guy bought them in 2021 for a older Wrangler he had, they were on for one summer. 14 hours ago, superhawk996 said: You're done, but this is for the future or other people. The weight rating doesn't matter if you don't use it. Even if you have the "heavy payload package" the lower rated tires will be fine, you just won't be able to use the truck's maximum weight capacity without exceeding the tire's capacity. This is exactly what I was wondering with original post, thanks. Seemed as such but I didn't want to skirt mfg direction and kill my family! Thanks 1 1 Quote
Nova Scotia Mike Posted Tuesday at 05:20 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 05:20 PM 2 hours ago, superhawk996 said: Tire talk lead me down a small rabbit hole and I landed on a video from CNBC explaining how EVs are a gold mine for tire companies because they wear tires faster. One of the reasons given was regen braking because when you let off the pedal on a gas car they coast, but EVs go into regen which adds tire wear. Fucking morans. A couple decade ago we had a landlord who drove an early Honda Insight (Gen 1 perhaps, it had half covers over the rear wheels) and I recall him complaining a lot about the tires as they were not off-the-shelf, were some sort of low resistance compound, expensive, etc ... Quote
superhawk996 Posted Wednesday at 12:21 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:21 AM 6 hours ago, Nova Scotia Mike said: I recall him complaining a lot about the tires as they were not off-the-shelf, were some sort of low resistance compound, expensive, etc ... Most hybrid and electric cars call for the low resistance tires, but they're not mandatory. Back then they might have used a goofy size, but I'm sure there would be something off the shelf close enough to work fine. With our first Prius I replaced the normal tires it had with a set intended for old air cooled VW Bugs (somewhat tall and skinny with a low weight rating), the ride got better and it picked up a few MPG. They were free NOS, only about 10 years old 😬 Quote
tomek Posted Wednesday at 01:05 AM Posted Wednesday at 01:05 AM 11 hours ago, superhawk996 said: AT 117.1 they all disintegrate. Battery will run dry before he hits 117mph. Quote
blackhawkxx Posted Wednesday at 10:38 AM Posted Wednesday at 10:38 AM 10 hours ago, superhawk996 said: With our first Prius I replaced the normal tires it had with a set intended for old air cooled VW Bugs (somewhat tall and skinny with a low weight rating), the ride got better and it picked up a few MPG. They were free NOS, only about 10 years old 😬 And look how that turned out, totaled. 😀 2 Quote
The Krypt Keeper Posted Thursday at 11:32 AM Posted Thursday at 11:32 AM Does it drive as if you are in 1850's covered wagon on the trail with wooden wheels? No, then you don't have the heavy payload package. 😆 1 Quote
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