SwampNut Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I had a super deal for a meal service called Green Chef. The type where ingredients are supplied in the portions to cook your own meals fresh. I selected the plant based, and we're specifically always avoiding dairy. They ship cheese and milk type ingredients. I contact them. "Those are considered vegetarian by dietitians." Yes, cool, I didn't select vegetarian, I selected plant based. Green Chef's policy is that this is the same. Not.Even.Close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon haney Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 15 minutes ago, SwampNut said: I had a super deal for a meal service called Green Chef. The type where ingredients are supplied in the portions to cook your own meals fresh. I selected the plant based, and we're specifically always avoiding dairy. They ship cheese and milk type ingredients. I contact them. "Those are considered vegetarian by dietitians." Yes, cool, I didn't select vegetarian, I selected plant based. Green Chef's policy is that this is the same. Not.Even.Close Cows eat plants. That's not close enough? Seriously, that is some fucked up thinking on their part. You can't have been the only one to complain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Knievel Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Cheese comes from milk. Milk comes from cows. Cows eat grass. Therefore, cheese comes from plants. 😘 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 LOL, as I typed it, I knew it was going to get some shit. It's not black and white I suppose. Another service, Hello Fresh I think, lets you logically bypass/mix some of these things. I think it's a "med diet" option. Anyway it results in plant based mostly, and the occasional hunk of salmon, which is decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I've seen non cheese cheese. Never tasted it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 4 minutes ago, blackhawkxx said: I've seen non cheese cheese. Never tasted it though. We use a ton of it. That's not what they are sending. Some of it is fantastic, some shitty. They are rapidly improving, very literally as we speak. In the last few months they've made massive improvements. Edit to add: Some is plant based whole food, and some is vegan/vegetarian but not plant based. As you'd expect. Options are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02XXCA Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Zero Knievel said: Cheese comes from milk. Milk comes from cows. Cows eat grass. Therefore, cheese comes from plants. 😘 Too bad most cows are not fed on grass alone..........cow milk is for baby cows not humans...... Edited September 3 by 02XXCA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 Quote Cows are still allowed to eat feeds that can include parts of pigs, fish, chicken, horses, even cats or dogs. And some of those animals -- before being rendered and mixed up for cattle feed -- are raised on food containing the same cow parts now banned from cattle consumption. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecman Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 49 minutes ago, Zero Knievel said: Cheese comes from milk. Milk comes from cows. Cows eat grass. Therefore, cheese comes from plants. 😘 Meat comes from cows. Cows eat grass. Therefore, meat comes from plants. Guess I can be vegetarian! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon haney Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 2 hours ago, 02XXCA said: Too bad most cows are not fed on grass alone..........cow milk is for baby cows not humans...... I'm not giving up ice cream.................ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 5 hours ago, blackhawkxx said: I've seen non cheese cheese. Never tasted it though. You have not missed much. From the distance it can pass as a cheese. And that's about it. Does not taste like cheese. Wife buys, sometimes, those plant based yogurts. Some of them don't taste that horrible, except not like yogurt. No idea why they call those plant based products "cheese" and "yogurt". Nobody calls vinyl laminated floor "wood" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02XXCA Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 4 hours ago, jon haney said: I'm not giving up ice cream.................ever. Me neither, but I don't eat it every day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 That's something I've totally lost any taste for. Around a year ago I was invited to an opening at a high end ice cream shop. It was ok. I was excited for the memory of how great it should be. I've been trying protein smoothie mixes as ice cream, it was fine, and then I never remember to put the effort in for it so that's forgotten. I've lost all desire for cheese eaten standalone or as a snack, but still want the umami and texture in foods. Luckily the latest real food cheeses are effectively identical when used correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Ice cream sucks. The truckloads of sugar they put into it makes it totally uneatable. At least for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon haney Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 16 hours ago, 02XXCA said: Me neither, but I don't eat it every day! I probably would, if I had a much higher metabolism. I probably average twice a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 21 hours ago, jon haney said: I'm not giving up ice cream.................ever. It's crack of the food world for me. I never buy it for home but love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Krypt Keeper Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 how about potatoes? I see bags in the store with plant based on them... meat saying gluten free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 11 minutes ago, The Krypt Keeper said: how about potatoes? I see bags in the store with plant based on them... meat saying gluten free Yeah, I saw "plant based" rice the other day. Made me want to try the meat-based rice for sure. Idiots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02XXCA Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 10 hours ago, SwampNut said: I've been trying protein smoothie mixes as ice cream, it was fine, and then I never remember to put the effort in for it so that's forgotten. I use a plant based protein drink with no added sugar, and add real cacao powder and ice with some 1/8 teaspoon of monk fruit and quick squirt of stevia liquid,and it tastes like a good chocolate shake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Krypt Keeper Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, 02XXCA said: I use a plant based protein drink with no added sugar, and add real cacao powder and ice with some 1/8 teaspoon of monk fruit and quick squirt of stevia liquid,and it tastes like a good chocolate shake. what is the calcium amount? I avoid dairy myself due to calcium and kidney stones, even the almond milk and others have the same amount or more calcium than regular milk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02XXCA Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, The Krypt Keeper said: what is the calcium amount? I avoid dairy myself due to calcium and kidney stones, even the almond milk and others have the same amount or more calcium than regular milk. 534mg roughly 38% of daily intake that's including the 8oz of unsweetened soy milk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted September 5 Author Share Posted September 5 Kos plant-based protein mix has 35mg in a normal serving. If you mix it with water it's a bit thin, but you can use coconut-based milk which tends to be low. I have one now that's 140 per 8 ounces. You can also use Kos coconut powder which is 0. The coconut powder adds creaminess and nutrition with no junk, low calories. It's a useful cooking ingredient to introduce body and creaminess without the usual junk. https://www.amazon.com/KOS-Unsweetened-Friendly-Additives-Ingredient/dp/B07ML4R851 https://www.amazon.com/KOS-Coffee-Protein-Powder-Caramel/dp/B08QYY8KDH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02XXCA Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Will have to give KOS a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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