SwampNut Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 https://www.engadget.com/youve-tried-plant-based-meat-but-here-come-meat-based-plants-163654564.html You’ve tried plant-based meat, but here come meat-based plants South Korean researchers infused actual rice grains with cow muscle and fat cells. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Does it taste like chicken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I like traditional plant based meats. Some of my meats also eat meat, but they mostly eat plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXBirdSlapper Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 33 minutes ago, superhawk996 said: I like traditional plant based meats. Some of my meats also eat meat, but they mostly eat plants. Brings up a good point. When will there be a public call to eliminate all animal predators? How long will that sin be allowed? Edited February 19 by XXBirdSlapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrick Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 13 hours ago, tomek said: Does it taste like chicken? Poodle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 12 hours ago, IcePrick said: Poodle. Are you Korean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Coming next chicken that tastes like broccoli. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon haney Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I don't see how beef production is an "ecological disaster". Please don't show me a link to some "professional" chicken little. There's always someone who claims doom and gloom, and they almost always leave out the parts that counter-act the doom & gloom part. From an unbiased standpoint, humans are the ecological disaster. This planet can only sustain a certain population, and all the "support" we require. Interesting how "wild-life management" is readily embraced, but managing human life is unthinkable. I'm not suggesting that we start randomly exterminating humans. Just remove all the safety labels, and let nature decide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, jon haney said: From an unbiased standpoint, humans are the ecological disaster. Yes, by doing things like factory farming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon haney Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 hours ago, SwampNut said: Yes, by doing things like factory farming. How else are they going to keep up with the food demand? Not many want to "regular" farm these days, and why would they? Very hard work for so little pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 13 minutes ago, jon haney said: How else are they going to keep up with the food demand? Eat the plants instead of wasting most of their energy on making meat??? Did I have to type that out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, SwampNut said: Eat the plants instead of wasting most of their energy on making meat??? Did I have to type that out? Can you please show us how do you eat what is available in open range? Can humans eat hay in the winter? Can you show us recipes with hay as a main ingredient? Thanks in advance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrick Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 23 minutes ago, tomek said: Can you please show us how do you eat what is available in open range? Can humans eat hay in the winter? Can you show us recipes with hay as a main ingredient? It takes unthinkable amounts of corn to make a pound of beef. If we used that corn to feed humans instead, it would go a lot further. So, corn dogs, duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXBirdSlapper Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 26 minutes ago, IcePrick said: It takes unthinkable amounts of corn to make a pound of beef. If we used that corn to feed humans instead, it would go a lot further. So, corn dogs, duh. And if we stopped using the food we grow, to make fuel, well ...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrick Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Corn dogs paired with ethanol shots. Capture the emissions from metabolization to make non-fossil fuels for corn farmers to use in their tractors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 7 hours ago, IcePrick said: It takes unthinkable amounts of corn to make a pound of beef. If we used that corn to feed humans instead, it would go a lot further. So, corn dogs, duh. Dude, corn not so good for humans in large amounts. Makes people fat. I don't eat anything corn. Seriously, not all land is "plowable" anyway. And even if it was, plowing everything, no grassland, no prairie, no range, etc. would create all kinds of disasters on epic, monumental and biblical scale. Edited February 20 by tomek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXBirdSlapper Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 6 hours ago, tomek said: Dude, corn not so good for humans in large amounts. Makes people fat. I don't eat anything corn. Seriously, not all land is "plowable" anyway. And even if it was, plowing everything, no grassland, no prairie, no range, etc. would create all kinds of disasters on epic, monumental and biblical scale. This. We must stop plowing mountain ranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmike Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Hmm, soylent pink . . ? Aha, now I see--one step closer to soylent green . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon haney Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 21 hours ago, SwampNut said: Eat the plants instead of wasting most of their energy on making meat??? Did I have to type that out? When I said "demand", I meant what most people want, not just what will keep them alive. However, I feel that the latter type of demand is closer than we think, but for completely different reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 So once again, back to humans are the problem because they demand factory farming? Adding more plants into the American diet has a wide number of benefits for the humans, the cows, and the overall environment (which in turn is good for the humans). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 How do you turn freshly cut grass into something people can eat without cattle being involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Have you ever noticed it's the rabbit food eaters that want to rid the world of meat after they stopped eating it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 3 hours ago, blackhawkxx said: Have you ever noticed it's the rabbit food eaters that want to rid the world of meat after they stopped eating it? Notice I've never said we should get rid of meat, and I changed my position on health aspect long BEFORE I stopped eating it (mostly, I haven't)? I can't speak for others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 People seem to make up an entire narrative in their heads when someone just says facts they don't like. I was just accused of being anti-EV for posting this... LOL! Quote Insurance companies don't work on perception, they work on hard numbers. EVs catch fire at a vastly lower rate than ICE, but since they are self-oxidizing they can go longer and do more damage per fire. Also EVs can catch fire while charging, which is often inside the house, and ICE fires are vastly more common while being driven, and not in your house. NYC has seen a huge number of life-threatening apartment fires from ebike charging. The numbers prove that the fear is real. I spent years denying the evidence that my health would be better with a change in animal consumption (not just meat). I get it. Cognitive dissonance hurts. We have a lifetime of big farming spending billions to tell us lies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I've never experienced Big Pork, Big Beef, Big Chicken and Big Cow telling and forcing me to eat meat and dairy. No idea what are you talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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