Two4One Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I noticed this from the time I bought my XX two weeks ago. The 1st to 2nd shift is very harsh unless I granny it. I seem to get an extra little "grind" in there a lot. I always make sure I preload the shifter before shifting to 2nd gear. I have tried every possible combination of clutch, throttle, no clutch, etc. It doesn't do it every time but it drives me nuts! The reason being my 1000RR and my ACE both shift extremely smooth between 1 and 2 compared to the XX. Over the weekend I changed over to AmsOil 20W50 full synthetic to see if this would help and it didn't one bit. I just want to make sure I'm not alone with this. If it's a normal characteristic, I can live with it knowing I'm not crushing gears every time. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rockmeupto125 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Try running it up quickly to 8 grand, pull up on the shift lever, notch the throttle back an eighth of a turn and then applying full throttle as fast as you can. Works smoothly for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXX Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I have a '99 model with Amsoil 10-40w and it shifts with a very small "clunk" from first to second, but never a "grind". I feel my "clunking" is more operator error than anything else (I don't shift without the clutch). 20-50w may be a little thick but I don't think that's the cause...sorry I'm not much help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two4One Posted May 27, 2005 Author Share Posted May 27, 2005 Well, "clunk" and "grind" can be interchanged I suppose. Depends on the situation and your use of the word. So you're going clutchless rockmeupto125? I think I've been spoiled by the 1000rr, that thing is like butter compared to the XX. Are my findings normal though? I put 20W50 in for the summer. I needed to change the oil to ease my mind since I don't know what the previous owner/dealership did with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pug Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Try 10w-40 oil. It works better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickrad Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Try 10w-40 oil. It works better. +1 20w-50 is too heavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two4One Posted May 27, 2005 Author Share Posted May 27, 2005 Well I don't agree that it would make that much of a difference but curiosity will get the best of me eventually. Not trying to argue but based on prior experience the 20w has been fine??? Keep in mind, I had this problem BEFORE I changed the oil also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomuseo Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I came from a series of RR's, plus RC51 & I find the XX box very clunky in comparison, so for me it is just a 'feature' of the XX, not that this really helps.....!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porterb123 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I use the clutch while shifting and the first to second clunk is there for me, so your not alone. My CB1100F had the same thing. Maybe we both shift wrong Porter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azxx Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 My CBR1000F seemed to shift the same but not as loud, I think the aluminum frame on the XX amplifies it, may sound strange but the bikes I had with a lot of drivetrain lash shifted smooth and bikes like the XX and CBR1000f with very little drivetrain lash shift more clunky in the 1st to 2nd shift. My GS1150Es shifted snatchy, clunky, after undercutting the gears, most noticable at low revs. All the bikes I've had with large clutches and transmissions shifted more harsh than the smaller bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two4One Posted May 27, 2005 Author Share Posted May 27, 2005 Thanks for the feedback guys! Sounds like it's just a characteristic of the bike. I can handle that if it's the case. I was just a tad nervous since I did buy this bike used....ya' never know. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffbsXX Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I've had some clunks with mine as well but I KNOW it's operator error. When I shift well, it's just as smooth as you please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickrad Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Start out in 2nd.....prollem fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly By Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 The 1st, 2nd clunk is a characteristic of the 'Bird. To minimize the clunk, hold in the clutch 2-3 seconds, then shift into 1st. Sometimes its quieter, sometimes it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnoGecko Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 *nod* I hear the clunk but it never bothers me. Sometimes its there, sometimes it isnt. Sometimes its louder than others, sometimes its barely audible. So, no you arent alone. I noticed that my clunk seemed to be less likely when I switched to the Syn blend in the bird. 20/50 is a tad thicker, so when the bike is cold or just warming up you may notice that more often than you would when the bike warms up and the oil has thinned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Becuause you're going through neutral it feels the worst. Just give it a firm, full, quick pull on the shifter and it will minimize it. From what I remember my V 65 Sabre felt about the same, I thought all Hondas shift the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALCXX Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 Try running it up quickly to 8 grand, pull up on the shift lever, notch the throttle back an eighth of a turn and then applying full throttle as fast as you can. Works smoothly for me. applying full throttle as fast as you can? Joe, that's funny little tug on the bars helps too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rockmeupto125 Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 does'nt your front wheel leave the ground when you do this? Fuck yeah. Keeps my mind off the transmission problems I'm having. :twisted: Seriously, :oops: . Maybe I should have said "near full throttle." :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALCXX Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 does'nt your front wheel leave the ground when you do this? Fuck yeah. Keeps my mind off the transmission problems I'm having. :twisted: Seriously, :oops: . Maybe I should have said "near full throttle." :oops: Still chuckling Have a good day Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyxdevil Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 MY BIKE STANDS UP TO ALMOST 12 OCLOCK WHEN I DO THIS !! I LOVE THE KEY IS HOW FAR TO RIDE THE WHEELIE AND SHIFTING WHILE WHELL IS IN AIR SO MUCH FUN TILL COPS SEE YOU THEN PREPARE FOR THE CHASE...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge7d Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 Chain adjustment & condition makes a big difference on the XX. I think mine shifts better without the clutch. Factory Pro makes a shift improver kit also... www.factorypro.com Picture of it installed.. http://66.47.68.116/images/ShiftKits/shift...ttKilbreath.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 Factory Pro makes a shift improver kit also. Did it make a big difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge7d Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 Factory Pro makes a shift improver kit also. Did it make a big difference? I have not done this mod yet, so if you do it let us know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyxdevil Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 dodge where do u have your plate mounted as i just did an under tail kit and looking for a uniuqe place for plate any ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerx296 Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Well, "clunk" and "grind" can be interchanged I suppose. Depends on the situation and your use of the word. So you're going clutchless rockmeupto125? I think I've been spoiled by the 1000rr, that thing is like butter compared to the XX. Are my findings normal though? I put 20W50 in for the summer. I needed to change the oil to ease my mind since I don't know what the previous owner/dealership did with it. I adjusted the balancers and mine stated to shift way better!! read the manual and it will explain! Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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