SBBXX Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 A couple of questions How long do the pads normally last? What do you normally pay for a set. Looks like mine are gone again (replaced last year); and if memory serves, paid $95.00 cdn for them. Seems a bit steep to me. marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXTi Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 OEM front pads seem to average 12k-15k miles. Aftermarkets may vary. The outside left front seems to go first. I don't know of anyone who's worn out a rear set, but I'm sure someone has done it. They'll chime in if so. It seems like the going rate for pads is about $25-$35 USD per caliper depending on brand and composition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violent J Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 OEM front pads seem to average 12k-15k miles. Aftermarkets may vary. The outside left front seems to go first. I don't know of anyone who's worn out a rear set, but I'm sure someone has done it. I just changed my rear pads. Stock pads, 24k miles. It seems the more burnouts you do, the faster they wear because of the stupid linked brakes. I've turned my rear rotor a funny shade of blue also. Does anybody have wave rotors on their bird? How do you like them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx7.62 Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Correct me if I am wrong, but doing a burnout will not actuate the rear brake at all unless you are pushing down hard on the front end of the bike. Isn't the rear brake actuated by the left front caliper moving up slightly against the master cyl there on the left fork? Put the bike on the center stand, spin the rear tire then pull the front brake will it stop it? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 mmmm that's right. But the rear wheel is trying to push the front forward, so the front weel is trying to turn, but being held by the claiper, which is rotating and activating the master cylinder.... not all that much I suspect, but enough to apply some pressure to the brake pads.... Gotta ask... after doing a burnout do you end yup with piles of crap on the back of the bike and under the seat? Never done one on a bike you see and I had always wondered. :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red J Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 mmmm that's right. But the rear wheel is trying to push the front forward, so the front weel is trying to turn, but being held by the claiper, which is rotating and activating the master cylinder.... not all that much I suspect, but enough to apply some pressure to the brake pads.... If the front wheel is indeed locked, and has not turned, the master will not be applying the rear brakes. You need the front wheel to rotate to apply the rear brake pads. If it stays stationary relative to the brake on the left side, it will stay stationary relative to the brake on the right side too. And it does. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 I don't know of anyone who's worn out a rear set, Mine were shot at 5,000 miles. Fronts last almost three times that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violent J Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 mmmm that's right. But the rear wheel is trying to push the front forward, so the front weel is trying to turn, but being held by the claiper, which is rotating and activating the master cylinder.... not all that much I suspect, but enough to apply some pressure to the brake pads.... If the front wheel is indeed locked, and has not turned, the master will not be applying the rear brakes. You need the front wheel to rotate to apply the rear brake pads. If it stays stationary relative to the brake on the left side, it will stay stationary relative to the brake on the right side too. And it does. J. That is what I thought too. It might be the way I do my burnouts. I don't sit in one spot. I lock the front brake, get the tire spinning,let off the brake a little and then slowly start rolling forward. So the master would be applied. I do this to keep the tire from collecting all the shit rubber other people burn off in the bleach box. Stealth, the rubber collects in the inner fender mostly but it also gets on the swing arm and all over the shock. It's a real pain to clean out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBBXX Posted September 9, 2004 Author Share Posted September 9, 2004 I don't know of anyone who's worn out a rear set, Mine were shot at 5,000 miles. Fronts last almost three times that long. Actually it's the rears that look like they're gone...again!!!! I've never had a bike that went through rear brakes like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXTi Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Has anyone else had rear's wear out as quickly as blackhawkXX and SBBXX? Mine seem to dramatically outlast the fronts. Different braking techinques? I use the fronts more than the rears. Maybe that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXXKicker Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 feel free to flame on, but i go for entire rides without even touching the rear brake lever. its not that i ride slowly (only where appropriate), and its not that i don't push the bike at all (again, only where appropriate), but i find that using the front/rear combo that LBS allows works just fine for me. i suppose that i got into the habit on dirtbikes, exascerbated it on the magna (with the dubious drum rear) and just carried it over to the 'bird. when i really need to haul down from speed, i hit it, and also when i practice my braking (emergency and otherwise), but rarely in actual practice. just my riding style, i suppose. brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyv65 Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Just under 21,000 miles on the 'bird and it looks like I could go another 10,000 on the stock pads-and I'm not afraid of the throttle. Bryan...I keep checkin'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrated Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 BlackhawkXX said: Mine were shot at 5,000 miles. Fronts last almost three times that long. If you are wearing out the rears at 5K, you are not using your brakes correctly. I'm not trying to tell you how to ride, but 70% of your braking should be done with the front brake. I almost never touch the rear brake unless I'm need to do a HARD stop or in a panic stop situation. Also, if I get into a corner too hot, I'll trail brake to scrub off some speed for the correct corner entrance speed. Normally I try to set my corner entrance speed so that I'm "slow" in and fast out. Certainly, I'm no expert at riding, but 5K on the rear is really out of line with what you should be getting. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxexcess Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Axxkicker you aren't alone it not using the rear brake, i am the same unless i need to really slow down, the only thing i hate with the lbs is slow speed braking still haven't mastered that one when i would normally use the rear brake only. Iain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 If you are not using the rear brakes, you are not using all of the front brakes as the rear pedal activates one piston on each of the front calipers. If you are wearing out the rears at 5K, you are not using your brakes correctly To be fair, I should have said that my bike had 5,000 miles on it when I got it and the rear pads were shot. Fronts are still good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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