SwampNut Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Potatoes get a bad rap because of their extreme glycemic impact, basically like sugar. But is it the potato's fault? No. It's what you combine it with. Potatoes with chicken are the least terrible combo, and still terrible. And it just keeps getting worse from here when you combine them with butter, other meats, and surprisingly worst of all, tuna. That doubles the insulin response, which is terrible. BUT...combine potatoes with other complex branch chain amino acids and you halve the impact. So as always, broccoli is the best nutritional add-on. Another effective blocker is any natural acid such as vinegars or lemon juice. What can we do with that in a meal? Dunno, I'm going to start thinking about how to make lemon potatoes or incorporate vinegar. I already eat a bit of potato in various ways, typically air fried, never with junk add-ons like oil and butter. I see a vinegar potato lunch coming in a few hours, and blood sugar measurements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Knievel Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 No. The best way to get to diabetes is pizza, ice cream, cookies, brownies, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 Blood sugar rose 5 points less than normal, with the vinegar soak. Cooking time changed a lot. It needs lower temp and longer time. Normally I do around 18 minutes at 480 for 1/8" fries, they were still hard, but starting to be fully done on the outside. So after letting them go longer, they were over-crisp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 480 for fries? I usually do them around 420. It does take forever though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azxr Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Salt and vinegar potatoes. Pretty good but need to cut down the salt or use a substitute. https://www.nigella.com/recipes/salt-and-vinegar-potatoes not sure if I specifically used this recipe but generally the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordzarkon Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/16/2022 at 2:08 PM, Zero Knievel said: No. The best way to get to diabetes is pizza, ice cream, cookies, brownies, etc. Dammit... Guess I did it wrong. That was my diet for over 10 years and all I did was gain weight. But that did give me a chance to discover this thing called a Gym. After that I was too tired to eat all that bad evil stuff LOL Haven't touched a pizza in years. That still makes me cry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 8 hours ago, azxr said: cut down the salt or use a substitute. I used potassium chloride as I do with almost everything, and it was fine. Sold as "no salt" in stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 Oh, and this bit from that recipe reminds me... Steam the baby new potatoes until tender (this takes 20-30 minutes). When cooked, turn off the heat, pour off the water from the pan below the steam pan, then sit the perforated pan on top of the empty, hot pan with the lid off to dry the potatoes. If it makes your life easier, you can steam the potatoes a couple of hours in advance as it would be fine roasting them once they're cooled, so long as they haven't been in the fridge. Cooling potatoes before eating them also has a huge impact on glycemic index. Doesn't matter if you re-heat them; going through a cooling cycle slashes out the sugar response in your body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 So let the potatoes cool, reheat them for the steak & potato dinner, throw down a vinegar chaser and all's good. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IcePrick Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Those purple potatoes are the best for you. I can't wait to make mashed potatoes with them, the color should be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 Purple and gold. Fry's has bags with mini purple & gold mixed, which make great smash potatoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Back in the day, in many parts of the world the only thing people could eat, at least in the winter, were potatoes and meat. Diabetics were unheard of back then. So, I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 I normally don't eat potatoes, but when I do, I eat them with extremely lean meat. And salad with olive oil and black balsamic vinegar as dressing. No health issues below my head.🤐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Knievel Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, tomek said: Back in the day, in many parts of the world the only thing people could eat, at least in the winter, were potatoes and meat. Diabetics were unheard of back then. So, I dunno. They also worked their asses off...and in winter likely burned a lot of calories just trying to stay warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 "Unheard of" in the same sense that autism was never diagnosed. We had fewer/no diagnostic tools and treatments, or people just outright died with no doctors around. LOL, it's the same logic as the anti-vaxxers saying it's correlated with vaccines. We simply didn't "hear" about it, and it was everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, SwampNut said: "Unheard of" in the same sense that autism was never diagnosed. We had fewer/no diagnostic tools and treatments, or people just outright died with no doctors around. LOL, it's the same logic as the anti-vaxxers saying it's correlated with vaccines. We simply didn't "hear" about it, and it was everywhere. I'm talking about 40 or so years ago. Or my youth. In Poland. There was no fresh veggies in winter because there was no greenhouses or imports. Basically socialism. Lol. Standard dinner were potatoes with some sort of meat. Sauerkraut or pickles for salad. And that was it outside of growing season. Small town, 5 k or so people. Everyone knew everybody. We had couple diabetics. All from same family, genetics I guess. BTW, they were the only fat people in town. So, I'm extremely reluctant to buy that potato + meat theory. BTW, excess to health care was non-issue. IMHO all that crap corn sugar that is being added to pretty much all process food is main contributor, plus sitting on your ass all day, not working out, no physical activity, etc. Potato plus meat ? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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