ManaBurrn Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 I figured this out on my VFR, and it pertains to your bikes as well... http://www.sv1k.com/vfr/lbs_upgrade Ride safely! :grin: Raphael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManaBurrn Posted August 12, 2003 Author Share Posted August 12, 2003 Thank you, sir! If you're considering removing the LBS, I REALLY think you should try this first. If you do it, you'll be 1/3 of the way there, anyway - to complete the removal, just [see the page, I changed this part] No, really - you have to try the upgrade - I could not be happier with it. It's like I've gotten a new bike. :wink: PS - I played Everquest (and got adicted and had to go cold turkey), but the name I have was originally from Magic: The Gathering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlkLightning Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 ex evercrack addict here, what server did you play on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManaBurrn Posted August 12, 2003 Author Share Posted August 12, 2003 Prexus? (it's been a while) I didn't play much - my highest character was like lvl 30 (human enchanter). Griphendor Grimorre, LOL. Have you seen EQ2? Looks like I'll get addicted all over again... :roll: Go ahead and hijack the thread - looks like noone's going to change their braking system, anyway. :razz: "I hereby dub thee.......the EVERQUEST thread!" {ding!} "CONGRATULATIONS! WELCOME TO LEVEL 2!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodeRash Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Go ahead and hijack the thread - looks like noone's going to change their braking system, anyway. Not really. You had me out in the garage last nite staring at my brake lines. It sounds like a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManaBurrn Posted August 12, 2003 Author Share Posted August 12, 2003 I was prepared to pay much more money for the results that I got. :-o At first, I was looking at buying a smaller master cylinder for the front lever (stock is 1/2" on both bikes, 12.7mm), but the problem is - most "big" bikes have a 14mm, 5/8", or even 3/4" master cylinder (which is getting bigger=less leverage), and the only way to go smaller would be to go to a DIRT BIKE master, which are in the 11, 12mm range. The problem with that is that those masters don't have brake switches, and are also designed for single-piston single-disc systems and have very small resivoirs (would be a pain in the ass to bleed). So increasing the caliper piston area was really the only viable alternative (short of replacing the front end, of course). Once the testimonials start coming in, this will really catch on. I figure I just have to wait for someone else to do it. :???: If you guys need help figuring out the length of your crossover cable - here's what I did: I pulled the thick AC cable off the back of my monitor, draped it over the fender, routed the cable exactly as I would route the crossover, marked it with permanent marker, pulled it off, straigtened it, then measured it. Then I added 1cm to be safe. Remeber, it's fitting banjo hole center-to center length, and the fittings have a 40º bend at each end. Like I said, If someone installs it - give me the length and I will put it on the page so the CBRXX guys will have it, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 That article talks about lack of power and feel, etc... But every time I swap bikes with a 12 or busa owner, they rave about the feel and power of my brakes. So I just don't understand the complaints. Maybe people are riding around with poorly-bled systems? Maybe those other bike's brakes are horrible and I don't know what I'm missing? I don't know, I've stoppied with two fingers comfortably, and I've controlled front lockups in the rain quite well, so, like I said, I just don't understand the complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManaBurrn Posted August 12, 2003 Author Share Posted August 12, 2003 Well, then it's not for you! Just like I say in the disclaimer, "I'd like to reccomend that this modification only be done by people who are not satisfied with the braking performance..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 I'm trying to understand the thinking, or why people are unhappy, that's all. Shit, I may give it a try just because I'm not smart enough to leave well enough alone. But I'm still curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severdog Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 That article talks about lack of power and feel, etc... But every time I swap bikes with a 12 or busa owner, they rave about the feel and power of my brakes. So I just don't understand the complaints. Maybe people are riding around with poorly-bled systems? Maybe those other bike's brakes are horrible and I don't know what I'm missing? I don't know, I've stoppied with two fingers comfortably, and I've controlled front lockups in the rain quite well, so, like I said, I just don't understand the complaints. Couldn't agree more. Recently rode an FJR1300, and just about locked up the rear brake with very little pressure. Front brake was OK. Every Honda that I've been on has a "dead" rear brake, requiring a decent amount of pressure to get it to do something, and a LOT of pressure to get it to lock. You might think this was done on purpose.... But my front binders are great on the XX. It stops RIGHT NOW without drama. If I was a StarBoyz wannabe or did track days I'd probably feel differently. But these are the best brakes I've used, in my limited experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManaBurrn Posted August 12, 2003 Author Share Posted August 12, 2003 Maybe the LBS is different on the XX, but I don't think so. It even takes the same brake pads, front and back. I am very hard on my brakes, and maybe that makes a difference. I've had an FZ-1 and YZF1000R, and it took less effort to stop those bikes quickly than it takes to stop my VFR. If you're happy with your brakes, just make believe I never mentioned it. To everyone else, this way please... :arrow: :twisted: PS - I updated the full conventional procedure - it takes 3 lines and incorporates the secondary master instead of deactivating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManaBurrn Posted September 24, 2003 Author Share Posted September 24, 2003 Changing the front control from 4 to 5 pistons leaves the rear hard and unresponsive. The 14mm rear master cylinder from a CBRF4 fixes that right up, and now my brakes are everything I ever wanted them to be. :grin: Total cost: $85. To all of you who think your brakes are "just fine the way they are" - I would like to open an invitation to any of you who would like to test the system on my VFR in Upsate, SC. The best you've tried is the best you know. PS - Caster Troy is a loser, and I can't believe you guys let him into your club. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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