RhysXX Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Well, I started a Keto diet but haven't lost anything yet, I have those strips you piss on and sometimes they say small, sometimes nothing :-( I am following correctly but the only things I can think of would be stuffing me up is creatine, chewing gum and the Vodka from the weekend :-) Any suggestions? I manly have eggs, cheese, kranskis, chicken and steak. How long did it take you guys to get into Ketosis? Do you think it matters how much you eat on this diet? Rhys :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vetteman Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 what are the strips you piss on??? is this something i need to do??? i started the diet last tuesday (4/22). i normally weigh in the morning and weigh in at 196-197, the pounds have been slowly dropping and this morning (4/28) i weighed in at 188. results are good for me so far but i want a snicker bar sooooo bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysXX Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 LOL, They are use to measure the amount of Keton's in you body, there are only an indicator, it depends how much water you've drank etc at a chemist, you can ask for Ketosticks :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 In the US, chemist = pharmacy. If you're seeing trace or no ketones detected, then you're not in ketosis. It could be that you're consuming something that is preventing it (no idea if creatine could do that), or your system just takes longer to get off the sugar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysXX Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 I'm going to take away all the things I think it may be one at a time (Vodka last!!!) and see what happens. Its amazing what they put sugar in, :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysXX Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 BTW, this is a good read http://forum.lowcarber.org/ :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 The vodka is no problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spEEdfrEEk Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Well, I started a Keto diet but haven't lost anything yet, I have those strips you piss on and sometimes they say small, sometimes nothing :-( Small is good, remember they indicate "excess" ketone. You want to be excreting them or metabolizing them. Hence, really large amounts are not helpfull I am following correctly but the only things Ican think of would be stuffing me up is creatine, chewing gum and the Vodka from the weekend :-) Creatine is horrible, all it does is make you carry water weight and can actually damage your kidneys if you don't drink massive amounts of water. It doesn't make your muscles grow, it just lets SOME people store more CP in the muscle (not a bigger engine, just more gas for it.) It's also a temporary effect. Chewing gum is a no-no. Most have tons of sugar or sugar alcohols. Vodka is fine in moderation ;-) I manly have eggs, cheese, kranskis, chicken and steak. Sounds good, but I don't know what "kranskis" are, ha ha.. How long did it take you guys to get into Ketosis? About 2 weeks tops. Do you think it matters how much you eat on this diet? Not really, but a good scheme is to eat between 12-14 kcal for each pound of lean body weight (IE: how much you weighed before you gained any significant body fat). Any less than 12 and you'll risk running up against your bodies "starvation" defense mechanism and stall. :cool: TJ :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodeRash Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 am following correctly but the only things I can think of would be stuffing me up is creatine, chewing gum and the Vodka Most brands of chewing gum (breath mints etc.) contain sugar. I'm not sure what effect creatine would have on glucogen storage. Do you think it matters how much you eat on this diet? I have heard calorie recomendations of 10 to 12 times your body weight per day. (200 lbs = 2200 cal.) About 60 to 70 percent of this should be calories from fats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysXX Posted April 30, 2003 Author Share Posted April 30, 2003 Thanks for the replys, Things are going better, I think it was those cheese kranskis (sort of sausage thing) About the Vodka, I read that it won't kick you out of Ketosis, just slows weightloss while it's used for fuel.. Hey, I can live with that. As for the Gum, it's sugar-free, 0 carb The Creatine I'm in two minds about, I like using it but don't want to sabotage the diet. I had a look grape juice for post workout but it was way high in Carbs, was thinking maybe Lite Cranberry Juice I'm thinking of having just one carb-up meal on the weekends, just to keep things moving One thing I love is filling up the grill with bacon & not feeling like a pig anymore (I am) lolz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spEEdfrEEk Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 was thinking maybe Lite Cranberry Juice:) Cranberry Juice is probably good advice for you. Because, if you continue to take creatine, you'll need it (the acidity) to prevent the development of kidney stones. It's bad stuff for you man, but I'll quit nagging now ;-) :cool: TJ :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubajohn Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 depends what creotean you are taking Most that are name brands and are not just creotean are LOADED with sugar, The sugar is suposed to help speed the creotean to the muscles. Or thats what the adds say It really helped me when I first started working out or I thought it was anyways. I have been totaly off any weightlifting suplements for almost a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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