pdsw60 Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Who makes the best 4 to 1 exhaust system for the XX. I'm going to replace the OEM on by 03 very soon. I'm looking for best performance. I will be installing a PCIII also. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Who makes the best 4 to 1 exhaust system for the XX. I'm going to replace the OEM on by 03 very soon. I'm looking for best performance. I will be installing a PCIII also. Thanks TiForce, but it's spendy. If you're on more of a budget, go with the Akrapovic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kf4mtw Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Who makes the best 4 to 1 exhaust system for the XX. I'm going to replace the OEM on by 03 very soon. I'm looking for best performance. I will be installing a PCIII also. Thanks TiForce, but it's spendy. If you're on more of a budget, go with the Akrapovic ................................... I bought an Akra. for mine a few years ago after much research, after installing it I realized the fairing needed trimmed after they told me it wouldn't and the entire system needed to be removed to change the oil filter since removing it was impossible as one manifold pipe was rubbing against the oil filter. I never started the engine. I called them and they requested several photo's which I sent, after two more calls to Europe I told him I was presently designing a new website about his exhaust system and technicians that would put a Blackbird on a dyno with the exhaust rubbing the oil filter and make a run with it. In conclusion I told him he was full of crap, that this was some computer designed system that they never physically installed on a bike and that his Dyno results he sent me were boguss, he sent me a return sticker and gave me a full refund. I bought a Two Bro's full system 28000 miles ago and it still runs fine, no rust, still quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John01XX Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Who makes the best 4 to 1 exhaust system for the XX. I'm going to replace the OEM on by 03 very soon. I'm looking for best performance. I will be installing a PCIII also. Thanks TiForce, but it's spendy. If you're on more of a budget, go with the Akrapovic ................................... I bought an Akra. for mine a few years ago after much research, after installing it I realized the fairing needed trimmed after they told me it wouldn't and the entire system needed to be removed to change the oil filter since removing it was impossible as one manifold pipe was rubbing against the oil filter. I never started the engine. I called them and they requested several photo's which I sent, after two more calls to Europe I told him I was presently designing a new website about his exhaust system and technicians that would put a Blackbird on a dyno with the exhaust rubbing the oil filter and make a run with it. In conclusion I told him he was full of crap, that this was some computer designed system that they never physically installed on a bike and that his Dyno results he sent me were boguss, he sent me a return sticker and gave me a full refund. I bought a Two Bro's full system 28000 miles ago and it still runs fine, no rust, still quiet. We gotta meet somewhere here in SE Fl. I don't understand your resent posts ! I have a full Akro system that Blais Cycle installed just over 35,000 miles ago and have faithfully done my own oil changes every 3500 miles or so and never removed any plastic. There was no cutting when the installation was done either. The oil filter is tight but is removable from underneath. By the way who are you and what city do you live in? Or do you prefer to remain anonamous(sp?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kf4mtw Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 I live in Palm City, 35 miles north of West Palm. if your Akra fits then I guess I'm responsible for them making it work after my miserable experience with them. The Importer in California I bought it from later said I was the first person to buy one of them and apoligized for the inconvenience. Tjad Staerk, ( forgot proper spelling but close ) the engineer that designed the system and sent me the fake computer generated Dyno Chart from Slovania I think determined it WAS installed corectly since there was no physical way to install it wrong from the photo's he requested. Promptly sent me a return label, apology, and full refund!..............This was 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 I have a full Akro system that Blais Cycle installed just over 35,000 miles ago and have faithfully done my own oil changes every 3500 miles or so and never removed any plastic. There was no cutting when the installation was done either. The oil filter is tight but is removable from underneath. John, does your system exit out the left side like his did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kf4mtw Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 3500 miles between oil changes? Poor Honda! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneXX Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 3500 miles between oil changes? Poor Honda! Is that a problem oh great one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kf4mtw Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 3500 miles between oil changes? Poor Honda! Is that a problem oh great one ................... :icon_snooty: .................... ............................. :icon_silenced: ................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John01XX Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I live in Palm City, 35 miles north of West Palm. if your Akra fits then I guess I'm responsible for them making it work after my miserable experience with them. The Importer in California I bought it from later said I was the first person to buy one of them and apoligized for the inconvenience. Tjad Staerk, ( forgot proper spelling but close ) the engineer that designed the system and sent me the fake computer generated Dyno Chart from Slovania I think determined it WAS installed corectly since there was no physical way to install it wrong from the photo's he requested. Promptly sent me a return label, apology, and full refund!..............This was 2002. More BS ...... I am not sure who you are trying to convince but so far it is not working unless of course you have convinced yourself. My Akro was installed on my 2001 in 2001 and the decision to buy the Akro was based on results and existing custom maps made for other Birds that had the Akro installed. You got the first ??? Pull your head out of your ass man. There are and have been many Akro systems installed on Birds in Europe many years before you ever had a Bird, if you really do have a Bird at All ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beondwacko Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 This is getting brutal. John,,,,,,,, will you be my friend? Can I touch your exhaust? :icon_clap: :icon_whatsign: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John01XX Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Every good exhaust needs to be touched frequently !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartonmd Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 3500 miles between oil changes? Poor Honda! Is that a problem oh great one ................... :icon_snooty: .................... ............................. :icon_silenced: ................ RTFM man! With regular old dino oil, Honda reccomends 8,000 mile OCI's... The "poor hondas" are the ones that get changes every 1000 miles, because the more you change the oil, the more the engine wears... Before you come back and say that's not true, do some reasearch on it... It has to do with the few seconds on the first startup when the oil pump is filling up the oil filter and lines up to the head and the engine is running dry... The particles per mile is MUCH higher at the beginning of an oil change, so as long as the oil is still working well and not over-saturated with iron, lead, brass, and silica, and you've still got at least a TBN of 2 you're better off doing longer OCI's. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXXKicker Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 3500 miles between oil changes? Poor Honda! Is that a problem oh great one hell yes it is, you ignorant slut. i was riding my 94 magna 750, and, i dunno, i must have got a fast one or something, because it was still pulling hard at around 175mph, when i glance down to see my oil change sticker on the speedo. turns out, i started my high-speed run (salt flats, mind you) 2999.4 miles after my last oil change. well, that fucker let loose at 3000.1 miles. blew me and my passenger (long story there) back to the pit area. nearly lost my coccyx in that little incident. craziest thing you've ever seen. after that, i vowed to never let my oil reach 3000 miles- i change it after every ride. jaunt to the store? 5 quarts. ride IN to work? 4 quarts. ride home FROM work? 5 quarts. i'm on it. some 'purists' would say that the blackbird should only hold 4 quarts, but i don't let that stop me. hell, even if the crankcase is full, i keep pouring. i've even duct-taped a full quart of oil to the filler neck of the crankcase in case any oil burns/escapes/drips out. and if you're looking for the secret to a 175mph magna, let me enlighten you: - totally stock engine - new rear tire ( i went with a 190 vs. a 180, because of the excessive speeds i would hit, obviously) - mustang seat this final touch was the most important. with that seat, 175+mph speeds are possible on the magna all day long. for both me and a passenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willxx23 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 3500 miles between oil changes? Poor Honda! Is that a problem oh great one :icon_lmao: I went 5K on my last one... :icon_doh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John01XX Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 3500 miles between oil changes? Poor Honda! Is that a problem oh great one :icon_lmao: I went 5K on my last one... :icon_doh: Will, You are simply a trouble maker !!! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 3500 miles between oil changes? Poor Honda! Is that a problem oh great one :icon_lmao: I went 5K on my last one... :icon_doh: WTF! You have to change the oil!!? I never read anything in the owner's manual about changing oil..... :icon_shifty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartonmd Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 3500 miles between oil changes? Poor Honda! Is that a problem oh great one :icon_lmao: I went 5K on my last one... :icon_doh: WTF! You have to change the oil!!? I never read anything in the owner's manual about changing oil..... :icon_shifty: That's because you've never owned a bike long enough to have to change the oil Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exskibum Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 WTF! You have to change the oil!!? I never read anything in the owner's manual about changing oil..... :icon_shifty: That's because you sell the bike before you have a chance to crack open the owner's manual. EDIT: Dammit, Mike -- beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneXX Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 3500 miles between oil changes? Poor Honda! Is that a problem oh great one hell yes it is, you ignorant slut. i was riding my 94 magna 750, and, i dunno, i must have got a fast one or something, because it was still pulling hard at around 175mph, when i glance down to see my oil change sticker on the speedo. turns out, i started my high-speed run (salt flats, mind you) 2999.4 miles after my last oil change. well, that fucker let loose at 3000.1 miles. blew me and my passenger (long story there) back to the pit area. nearly lost my coccyx in that little incident. craziest thing you've ever seen. after that, i vowed to never let my oil reach 3000 miles- i change it after every ride. jaunt to the store? 5 quarts. ride IN to work? 4 quarts. ride home FROM work? 5 quarts. i'm on it. some 'purists' would say that the blackbird should only hold 4 quarts, but i don't let that stop me. hell, even if the crankcase is full, i keep pouring. i've even duct-taped a full quart of oil to the filler neck of the crankcase in case any oil burns/escapes/drips out. and if you're looking for the secret to a 175mph magna, let me enlighten you: - totally stock engine - new rear tire ( i went with a 190 vs. a 180, because of the excessive speeds i would hit, obviously) - mustang seat this final touch was the most important. with that seat, 175+mph speeds are possible on the magna all day long. for both me and a passenger. I remember when you did that, great times Remember when I wheelied the 450 Rebel across the Chesapeke Bay Bridge with 4,000 miles on the oil? Crazy shit man what were we thinking back then :icon_duh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunedain Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I like the two brothers Ti oval system and got them and dynojet on a conference call to get the jetting (it's a 98) settings worked out. Loved it. Or am I supposed to be talking about oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 3500 miles between oil changes? Poor Honda! Is that a problem oh great one :icon_lmao: I went 5K on my last one... :icon_doh: WTF! You have to change the oil!!? I never read anything in the owner's manual about changing oil..... :icon_shifty: That's because you've never owned a bike long enough to have to change the oil Mike hA! WTF! You have to change the oil!!? I never read anything in the owner's manual about changing oil..... :icon_shifty: That's because you sell the bike before you have a chance to crack open the owner's manual. EDIT: Dammit, Mike -- beat me to it. ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kf4mtw Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I live in Palm City, 35 miles north of West Palm. if your Akra fits then I guess I'm responsible for them making it work after my miserable experience with them. The Importer in California I bought it from later said I was the first person to buy one of them and apoligized for the inconvenience. Tjad Staerk, ( forgot proper spelling but close ) the engineer that designed the system and sent me the fake computer generated Dyno Chart from Slovania I think determined it WAS installed corectly since there was no physical way to install it wrong from the photo's he requested. Promptly sent me a return label, apology, and full refund!..............This was 2002. More BS ...... I am not sure who you are trying to convince but so far it is not working unless of course you have convinced yourself. My Akro was installed on my 2001 in 2001 and the decision to buy the Akro was based on results and existing custom maps made for other Birds that had the Akro installed. You got the first ??? Pull your head out of your ass man. There are and have been many Akro systems installed on Birds in Europe many years before you ever had a Bird, if you really do have a Bird at All ??........................................ ..................Dear John:............I'm not trying to impress anyone, simply stating the facts about MY personal experience with that exhaust system, could be thousands of documented happy customers from that company, all I know is mine pushed out the fairing at the bottom and was hard pressed against the oil filter, two reasons they took it back and gave me a full refund, maybe they sent me the wrong one, I do not know the reason. I don't tell people online they are full of BS when I disagree with them and certainly wouldn't tell someone to pull their head out of their ass either............All I have done here is compliment the XX, no need for your attitude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneXX Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Would you like a lesson in quoting a post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I feel a strange tremor in The Force -- a presence I've not felt since *BRAAAAAAAAP*. Oh, it was just the chili dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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