BarryG Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 How to do I loose the axle bolt to adjust my chain? Just got the bike and I think it's torqued at 70-80lbs/ft? The toolkit wrench by itself won't budge it even if I tap it with a hammer. What do I need to get to loosen it?? Thx, Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rockmeupto125 Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 You need what's called a breaker bar, or strongarm. Its just a long bar with a socket drive, and you get more leverage from it. Either 3/8th's drive or 1/2 inch will do. You can usually take the toolkit wrench with the extension on it and stand on it, but who knows what monkey tightened it the last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matey_peeps Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Good luck. Hopefully yours won't end up looking like mine did last winter. I had the same symptom: fucker would NOT move, even with a 3" breaker bar. You can get a big breaker bar and 1/2" drive socket set at your local harbor freight for under $20 most likely, and I'd suggest using the proper tools over the toolkit any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryG Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 Thanks, guys. But where exactly do I buy this stuff? My local harbor freight? What's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXX Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Do you have a torque wrench to properly tighten it back with? I got mine at Sears...you could actually use it to loosen the nut. IIRC it has a 250 ft/lb limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartonmd Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Good luck. Hopefully yours won't end up looking like mine did last winter. I had the same symptom: fucker would NOT move, even with a 3" breaker bar. You can get a big breaker bar and 1/2" drive socket set at your local harbor freight for under $20 most likely, and I'd suggest using the proper tools over the toolkit any day. yeah... and like mine did at SeXXt!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryG Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 Do you have a torque wrench to properly tighten it back with? I got mine at Sears...you could actually use it to loosen the nut. IIRC it has a 250 ft/lb limit. I'm gonna buy a torque wrench too.....but why would a torque wrench help in loosening the nut??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furbird Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 It's probably WAY overtorqued because they tend to overkill these things when they assemble them. I went over my bike right after I got it with a torque wrench and torqued everything correctly. At least, all the stuff I could see without removing the entire engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matey_peeps Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Harbor Freight Tools. They're inexpensive, good enough for a guy who's not making a living beating his tools to death every day. Here's a store locator. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/reta...l_stores.taf#CA Personally I wouldn't use a torque wrench to get the nut off, but I think what he's getting at is that generally they're longer than ratchets and you can therefore get more leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZITPRO Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Do you have a torque wrench to properly tighten it back with? I got mine at Sears...you could actually use it to loosen the nut. IIRC it has a 250 ft/lb limit. I have a Sears torque wrench also, does it give a correct reading if I use a 3/8" wrench with a 1/2" adaptor? I have wondered about this becuase I am to cheep to buy a 2nd torque wrench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matey_peeps Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 A couple items I'd suggest: 25" breaker bar $14.99 (I've got one and it's GREAT!) http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Disp...temnumber=30395 17 pc. 1/2" dr. metric socket set (you'll need the ratchet and a 22mm for the other end of the axle http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Disp...temnumber=45467 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matey_peeps Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Do you have a torque wrench to properly tighten it back with? I got mine at Sears...you could actually use it to loosen the nut. IIRC it has a 250 ft/lb limit. I have a Sears torque wrench also, does it give a correct reading if I use a 3/8" wrench with a 1/2" adaptor? I have wondered about this becuase I am to cheep to buy a 2nd torque wrench. You bet it does. Torque is torque baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryG Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 A couple items I'd suggest:25" breaker bar $14.99 (I've got one and it's GREAT!) http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Disp...temnumber=30395 17 pc. 1/2" dr. metric socket set (you'll need the ratchet and a 22mm for the other end of the axlehttp://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Disp...temnumber=45467 Awesome! Thanks....there's a harbor store near me as well I found out....I'll be going by there tonight or tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Krypt Keeper Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 69 ft lbs is the correct torqued amount for your rear axle Never use the torque by feel amount.. Or just watch American Chopper and do the opposite of what they do.. I wanna beat them with a fucking torque wrench so bad its not even funny.. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmystartup Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 A couple items I'd suggest:25" breaker bar $14.99 (I've got one and it's GREAT!) http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Disp...temnumber=30395 17 pc. 1/2" dr. metric socket set (you'll need the ratchet and a 22mm for the other end of the axlehttp://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Disp...temnumber=45467 Awesome! Thanks....there's a harbor store near me as well I found out....I'll be going by there tonight or tomorrow. While you are there I suggest you pick up a couple of things that will come in handy... 22mm socket - six sided and a set of metric hex sockets. They will come in very useful working on any Japanese bike! Hex set - http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Disp...temnumber=35183 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXX Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Personally I wouldn't use a torque wrench to get the nut off, but I think what he's getting at is that generally they're longer than ratchets and you can therefore get more leverage. Exactly, I use a breaker bar also even though the TW has a ratchet head. You need a breaker bar anyway for loosening the lugs on your car when the tire shops install them with air wrenches set on max psi. Try breaking those bitches loose with that little tire ironwrench on the side of the road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmystartup Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 The other option is to have an impact wrench on hand. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Disp...temnumber=45252 and no...I don't work for HF. I just like their stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matey_peeps Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Oh ya, and pick up a torque wrench while you're there. I don't work for harbor freight either, altho my company does sell hand tools. They are a great, inexpensive alternative for the shadetree guy or someone looking to get started doing their own maintenance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jswjr600 Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Do you have a torque wrench to properly tighten it back with? I got mine at Sears...you could actually use it to loosen the nut. IIRC it has a 250 ft/lb limit. I'm gonna buy a torque wrench too.....but why would a torque wrench help in loosening the nut??? NEVER break torque using a torque wrench. you will simply fuck its calibration all up. I think he means a torque wrench will help the next time you get it off, as you and make sure its not overtorqued when you put it back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartonmd Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Do you have a torque wrench to properly tighten it back with? I got mine at Sears...you could actually use it to loosen the nut. IIRC it has a 250 ft/lb limit. I'm gonna buy a torque wrench too.....but why would a torque wrench help in loosening the nut??? NEVER break torque using a torque wrench. you will simply fuck its calibration all up. I think he means a torque wrench will help the next time you get it off, as you and make sure its not overtorqued when you put it back on. GOOD, somebody beat me to saying that! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1K Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 but who knows what monkey tightened it the last time. HEY wait a minute... :-k :greenfingers: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REXX Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 NEVER break torque using a torque wrench. you will simply fuck its calibration all up. I think he means a torque wrench will help the next time you get it off, as you and make sure its not overtorqued when you put it back on. Damn, I didn't know...this is my first "clicker". My other TW's were "pointer" type. I'd been PISSED if I'd screwed up my new wrench. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonW Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 SELL IT! Then buy another one in a few months. :wink: Last year I went on a ride with a guy who owns an independent shop. While underway we notice another rider who's rear tire was showing cord so we go back to this guy's shop to replace it. He gets it mounted and balanced then goes to put it on the bike. He asks the owner of the bike to lean on the seat while he takes a breaker bar to the axle bolt to tighten it. He damn near lifts the bike with the rider off the ground tightening it and then doesn't even fuck with the adjuster once it was tight. :roll: I expect this from a stealer, but not an independant. This is why I won't let anyone wrench on my bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffXX Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Like above. You can get a breaker bar anywhere: Sears, Home Depot, Lowes. It makes the job easy. And NEVER use a torque wrench to loosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongHaul Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 And NEVER use a torque wrench to loosen. Really? I set my 1/2" drive, Craftsman "click" TW to about 90 ft*lbs, then loosen. I always figured it was no more harsh on the TW than tightening a bolt to that value. IIRC, I don't think it clicks when I loosen the 69 ft*lb axle nut. (Now the first time I loosened that same nut, I used a breaker bar and thought I'd turn the motorcycle over before it would come loose. Always wondered if the factory torqued it like that or the stealership boneheads.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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