KawRider Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 :cool: Am I correct in stating that there is no differance mechanically between the 02 and the 03 XX? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Involute Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie_xx Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 what he said..... :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aptyp Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 What about 99 and 03? Not trolling, really honestly curious. Other than the electronic dash, is there anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 Windscreen got 1" higher in '01. '02 saw an upgrade to the ECU requiring a PCIII rather than the PCII for previous injected models. I think that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie_xx Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 Was the new RR placed in the '00 model or the '01 ? I think '01.... :???: Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 Yep, you're right, Peter. The newer unit is larger, with big ass cooling fins. I knew I'd miss something :sad: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawRider Posted April 4, 2004 Author Share Posted April 4, 2004 :cool: I may be getting a new 02 model. I just need to sell the Z1000. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawRider Posted April 4, 2004 Author Share Posted April 4, 2004 It would be cool to see a biography of the XX. I bet someone here could easily list the changes throughout the years. Since it's been retired. For now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 97-98 no changes, carbureted 99-00 updated with EFI, updated LBS system, forks, front wheel, & rotors updated as well (fork internals updated). Front wheel & rotors were replaced due to a larger bearing used in the newer models. Ram air also added, and a higher output charging system as well. Rear light was replaced with a larger unit Tank capacity increased by almost a full gallon, as well. 01-updated with digital speedo & gauges, except for tach. Windshield replaced with a double-bubble design, 1" taller than the previous version. Signal lenses (front) were changed, as well as the feelers on the pegs. 02-updated ECU & R/R as previously stated. CA bikes got their oxygen sensors in that year, IIRC, as well as catalysts in the exhaust system. No other changes I can think of right now. Anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 The R/R was '01, or sooner. Mine's got the newer version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Involute Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 Wasn't there a Cush Drive update at some time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egadrotu Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 Mine is a 99 and it has the large R/R with the fins on it. Since I didn't buy it new, I can't say if it is original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickcbr1100 Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 99 - slightly larger oil and water radiators, HISS key system, reshaped brake and clutch levers 01 - HECS3 Exhaust "cats" fitted as standard on UK/European bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaXX Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 The # of clutch plates changed in 99. The clutch and brake levers were changed slightly as they were being engaged just enought to activate the brake light when going over 170 :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Mother Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 Hey Mic, what is that HISS key system you mention on the 99's? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 HISS - OEM security system. Not available in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 It's the "Honda Immobilizer Security System" or something like that. Just the European bikes have it. Also, it was the Europeans that got the ECU, cats, and oxygen sensor a year earlier than CA did. Clutch plates? I missed that one. The whole clutch was redesigned for 99. Took a different number of springs as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie_xx Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 as well as the feelers on the pegs. Not sure about the feelers themselve, but the whole rider footpegs are changed on the '99 model, from '91/'98..... Let's do colors, shall we ?! US - '97 Black :cool: - '98 Black :???: - '99 Black / different stickers :roll: - '00 Titanium :cool: (Except Jerry's ! :wink: ) - '01 Candy Red :cool: :grin: :worship: - '02 Silver :cool: - '03 Black :roll: :???: ... - '04 ....... :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonW Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 Jeeze, I can't believe no one has mentioned the obvious.............. :wink: The carbed version windscreens don't have the gradient fade and the irridescent coloring in the lower portion that covers the dash wiring. The carbed versions have a "Honda" sticker on the nose between the headlight and windscreen and the FI versions have it in the screen itself. The carbed versions don't have PGM-FI in the CBRXX stickers on the lower fairings.........duh! Carbed bikes have black case covers instead of that ugly goldish color. Carbed bikes have black painted stainless rotor carriers instead of the gold aluminum ones.....and the aforementioned larger hub. No choke lever on the FI bikes......duh! Knock sensor added to FI bikes. "Friction damper" added to tranny in FI bikes in an attempt to minimize the 'clunk' when shifting from Neutral to 1st. Clutch ratio changed for FI bikes resulting in lighter action. Clutch friction plates reduced from 9 to 7 on FI bikes. Larger radiator for FI bikes. Oil cooler relocated and enlarged on FI bikes. Radiator fan updated on FI bikes. Different shaped crossmember behind steering head (the one that's in your way when changing plugs) on FI bikes. Different cartridge rods in front forks on FI bikes. Lighter footpegs were added to FI bikes. Different handlebar castings on FI bikes. Redesigned front brake lever for FI bikes. The sidestand light on the dash was replaced with the FI light in '99. Hope that covers it. I'm sure I've forgotten something, but that's all that comes to mind at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonW Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 I knew I was forgetting something........ The rear subframe was changed in the area that mounts the R/R. And, the whole undertray was changed to allow room for the ECU......and the new, big, ugly tail light. :razz: And at some point, the fork lowers went from having a brushed finish to having a cast finish on them. Had to be sometime after 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John01XX Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 Gas Tank size ? Changed on FI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aptyp Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 So basically anything from 99 and up is good and 01 and up is a little better but not by so much that its noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJP XX Posted April 6, 2004 Share Posted April 6, 2004 In my opinion, any XX from 97 and up is good. If I were to get a newer XX, it would be w/FI. Probably an 01 and up due to the newer dash. I been looking at mine for the last 65,000 miles and it's time to upgrade. :wink: :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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