demon Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 What kind of mileage do the brake pads usually last under normal use? I have 9K on the origional pads and when I stop they make a bzzzzzzzzz :headscratch: sound from the front. Is this typical or do I need to check into replacing the brakes? One more question: Do most change all 3 calipers at once due to the LBS or do the rears last longer? If I need to change the pads, I was thinking of going with EBC sintered pads on the front and stock type pads on the rear to give a more front biased brakes. Anyone done this? Do you like it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 The front pads should go 2-3 times longer than the rears. As far as which pads, I think the Galfer offerings are a much better choice than the EBC (I've used both). See the main site for my comparison details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 So far.. all of my local shops only hold EBC... I guess for convinience sake... I'll simply take 3 sets of them. after 11000 miles... my OEM are shot. I'm going to buy some new pads tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 So order them from cyclebrakes.com... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demon Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 I'm going to check the pads tonight. The discs do not have any scratches in them so I think I'm OK. On the main site, I only found EBC HH info and nothing on the Galfer pads. Are they that much better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I do think so. The EBC HH pads are an expert-level pad that's not as friendly on the street, and puts a LOT more wear on the rotors. It has a very non-linear heat/friction curve, and is known to be prone to lockups at low speeds because the speed/friction curve is also non-linear. The Galfer blacks are very linear and predictable. The Galfer greens are even nicer, but get mushy in the rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Replaced my stock pads at 14000 miles. The rear pad showed the most wear of the three. Now running EBC HH both front and rear and love them. Only takes one finger on the front brake to haul it down from speed. They do have a learning curve to adjust to added stopping power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XX Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 approaching 24k on my 2002 oem pads. rear oem lost life at about 14k and replaced with ebc hh in the back - but i am a heavy commuter who drags the rear brake while splitting lanes :cool: 2 pair ebc hh on hold for the fronts, either this weekend or next - looking forward to it :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXTi Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 I replaced all three sets of pads at about 15K miles. I used Galfer Blacks per Carlos' recommendation and like them. One of my left front pads was worn down to the metal. The right side and rear had quite a bit of life left in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithrandir Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 And at 9000 miles, you need to check your pads pronto. Hmmm.. .mine have 11K miles on them and look like brand new! Oh, I suppose applying the brakes only every 200 miles to get into the next gas station, probably helps prolong pad life :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXTi Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Good point Joe. I thought mine were OK until I actually pulled the pads. I was shocked to see the left front pad worn to the metal. It hadn't caused rotor damage yet, but it had to be close. :oops: Warchild posted a thread several months ago describing similar pad wear on his bike. Thanks to him, I checked my pads and averted a more serious (and expensive) problem. Thanks again Dale. :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 24k miles on my front EBC HH's. I keep rotating the pads (which allows you to inspect them) and they are about half worn, perfectly even and takes 5 min. to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Rotating pads is probably a bad idea. They break in with the inevitable grooving of the rotors. When you rotate, you decrease contact surface. The worst outcome of this would be overheating and warping. No, I do NOT know for a fact it wil be a problem, but I do know for a fact that you do decrease contact surface area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffXX Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Sergio Galfer (of that Galfer group) runs a thread on another board relating to brakes. It is a great thread and he answers a lot of tough questions. I can't recall the exact wording, but he basically says that swapping pads is bad, very bad. Especially the LF Outer pad that tends to wear unevenly. If you swap it, that uneven pad is only going to make minimal contact with the new side rotor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XX Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 just replaced (at 24k) my fronts. front left pair was at the wear line, one of them (can't remember which) was significantly lower than the other. Inserted ebc HH.... :shock: omg, what a difference once they bed in. don't be fooled if they feel soft and spongy at first, because they DO bed in and then grab! btw, a comment on pushing the pistons back in to make room for the new pads - I took bike off front stand (kept on back stand), turned wheel full to the left to uncap the master on the rt handlebar. beware that as you push back in the pistons(which i HAD to do), the brake fluid level will rise, and if you've topped it as you've worn your brakes, when you push the pistons back in, you may cause the master to over flow... might be a 'no duh' for some, just thought i'd share :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird Posted August 18, 2003 Share Posted August 18, 2003 I purchased 3 sets of EBC on friday. Took out the toolbox on saterday mornig and HUH :shock: The brakes are fine! What the hell was I thinking? Outer left side pad is worn at angle like many of you have stated.. but it still have 2-3 millimeters left ... so... fuck it. They are staying in there! I<ll return the pads and see if I change the bike next year for a new XX. If not.. I'll go get some new rubber and brake pads. Thanks for the info everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demon Posted August 18, 2003 Author Share Posted August 18, 2003 Finally got to check mine saturday. Left outer worn at an angle, about 1mm left at the lower side. All other brakes are in good shape. Had an asphalt covered rock stuck to the front right brake pad, removed it, and no more bzzzzzzzz. :grin: I'd say I've got a good 1500 miles left on the pads. Going to order Galfer greens for the front and blacks for the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warchild Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 Joe said: Expect uneven and significant wear on the right front. Forgot your memory medication again, didn't ya? :twisted: Joe means the *left* caliper, *outer* pad that you will likely find having significant and uneven wear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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