therubberjungle Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Hello everyone, I'm a brand-spanking new member (this is my first post) who's been the proud owner of a '97 for two months now. Talk about the PERFECT bike to get me back into street riding! So, there I was this afternoon cruising @ 4000 rpm when the speedo and tach both dropped to zero. The engine hiccupped then started losing power. A couple of backfires then nothing. Dead. I started to check the fuses and found that the main (30 amp) fuse was toast. Replaced it and watched it blow again after two minutes of highway speed. Replaced again and decided to rev the engine: blown fuse as the tach climbed above 3500-4000 rpm. Dammit! Had to limp home @ 2200 rpm on the backroads. Anyone have some insight? Cheers, Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobicus Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Just a guess.. but regulator/rectifier is probalby toast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therubberjungle Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 Hobicus, SWEET avatar... damn, I can't stop staring! It's hypnotic! I think you're right. I pulled the rr and found a 1/2 inch crack on the rubber face. I normally ride in the dry but yesterday's Friday 13 in Port Dover was a soaker. Maybe it's time for a replacement. Thanks for replying, Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie_xx Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 If you have to buy the new one, the R/R from the '01-'03 is better and cheaper, but you'd have to play with the plug... And you can try the '99-'01 R1 R/R which is even cheaper than the Honda... From Ron Ayers: XX '97-'98 Part Number: 31600-MY7-305 Description: SET,REGULATOR Price: $156.67 '99-'00 Part Number: 31600-MAT-E01 Description: RECTIFIER, REGULATOR Price: $107.49 '01-'03 Part Number: 31600-MAT-D51 Description: RECTIFIER, REGULATOR Price: $96.74 And here is the one from the '99-'01 Yamaha R1 Part Number: 4JH-81960-01-00 Description: RECTIFIER & REGULATO Price: $56.61 Good luck, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therubberjungle Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 Thanks Peter, That's great info. Cheers, Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookman49 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Well I think I have the same problem. Riding yesterday down 144 in PA (doing the speed limit of course :wink: ) I looked down and my speedo and tach were not working. Shit. So I figured it was just a fuse and kept going. Not long afterwords my bike starts spitting and the dies. Fuck! In the middle of no were. We checked the fuses and all seemed ok. Unpluged all my extra shit and pushed started her and off we went. 10 miles later died again. Two of my buddies went to Walmart picked me up a battery and I made it home. Have to check the volts tonight, but it sounds like the reg/rec is shot. If that is the case I think I will go with the R1 reg/rec. As Peter posted it is $100 cheaper then the Honda and better. Now has anybody did this swap with a brand new R1 part and not a used one with the wires? Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motobeagle Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I had that happen to me yesterday right outside of Madison. The bike went dead at 70, I pulled over and Peter pointed out that I hit the kill switch while changing stations on the XM. Freakin Honda. :shock: :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookman49 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 I had that happen to me yesterday right outside of Madison. The bike went dead at 70, I pulled over and Peter pointed out that I hit the kill switch while changing stations on the XM. Freakin Honda. :shock: :oops: LOL, I wish it was just my kill switch. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suf Daddy Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 I linked to this guys' site about doing a Yammi rect. Someone else did it too. www.quattro123.com/ click on the BB. -Suf Daddy Well I think I have the same problem. Riding yesterday down 144 in PA (doing the speed limit of course :wink: ) I looked down and my speedo and tach were not working. Shit. So I figured it was just a fuse and kept going. Not long afterwords my bike starts spitting and the dies. Fuck! In the middle of no were. We checked the fuses and all seemed ok. Unpluged all my extra shit and pushed started her and off we went. 10 miles later died again. Two of my buddies went to Walmart picked me up a battery and I made it home. Have to check the volts tonight, but it sounds like the reg/rec is shot. If that is the case I think I will go with the R1 reg/rec. As Peter posted it is $100 cheaper then the Honda and better. Now has anybody did this swap with a brand new R1 part and not a used one with the wires? Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookman49 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Thanks for the link Surf!! Well after putting in a new battery we checked the volts and it is between 13.80 and 14.40 volts. Depends if I had the high beam and brake light on. Now when the fan kicked in it droped just below 13 volts. Is this ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookman49 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Ok will try that. I did increase the rpm's a little when the fan was off and it went up just a touch. Not much though! Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajjer9 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Now has anybody did this swap with a brand new R1 part and not a used one with the wires?Ken I did it to mine last fall...all it involved was a small screwdriver to remove the terminals from the plastic connector...then just plug into the R/R...the three spade terminals that are lined up together are the alternator lines (yellow on my 97)...then looking from the front the red wire to the right and green wire to the left...heres a link complete with pictures good luckhttp://www.vlc.com.au/~justin/about/bikes/...eg_replace.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 http://www.cbr1100xx.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=276 So a bad reg/rec doesn't sneak up on you, every time you start the bike in the morning watch the lights closely. They should get brighter when you rev it off idle. I also periodically throw the multimeter on and check the voltage. My Yamaha R1 reg. is still going strong, currently at 48 K miles I put it on at 30 K miles. :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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