Wetzel Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Can i just move the sensor from my old motor to my new one. I Was Informed it is the Timing sprocket that i was working on New motor picture below old motor picture below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzel Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 I did do some research and it appears to me 97-03 black birds do have the same sensor. Here are the covers I don't know what to think. you can see the difference in the inside of the cover where the sensor is suppost to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrxxquad Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 I think that is aftermarket and adjustable in the new one and that is ign...Cam sensor is up top on the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzel Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 I think that is aftermarket and adjustable in the new one and that is ign...Cam sensor is up top on the head. Well Im going to try to change it so it fits my wiring harness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecome Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 kudos to you for taking on such a project. Not all of us have the same skills. Keep us posted, some are watching with anticipation. Looks like you might be close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzel Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 kudos to you for taking on such a project. Not all of us have the same skills. Keep us posted, some are watching with anticipation. Looks like you might be close. I hope I am close. After that cover is on I hope to put the motor back in the bike hook the chain up so i tighten the clutch down to sprock. Then it is just the wiring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecome Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 bout how many hours do you have in the entire project? just wondering, kinda think I'll be a bird man till the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzel Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 bout how many hours do you have in the entire project? just wondering, kinda think I'll be a bird man till the end. i have about 10 hours in so far. But I bought a motor and trans with nothing on it. I had to transfer stuff over. I will never do that again I need to correct this. What I am working on is the timing sprocket Has anyone seen one of these before and if you have what would it have been used for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Eddy Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I was over at Wetzel's today and this looks like an aftermarket ignition piece. The scary part is the red gasket sealant on the head gasket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzel Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 I was over at Wetzel's today and this looks like an aftermarket ignition piece. The scary part is the red gasket sealant on the head gasket. I didn't take a picture of that yet. I think im going to borescope the motor if I can get the tool from my uncle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrxxquad Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I think that is aftermarket and adjustable in the new one and that is ign...Cam sensor is up top on the head. Well Im going to try to change it so it fits my wiring harness thats fine, post pictures of the old one, someone might want it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzel Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 I think that is aftermarket and adjustable in the new one and that is ign...Cam sensor is up top on the head. Well Im going to try to change it so it fits my wiring harness thats fine, post pictures of the old one, someone might want it I used the old one because I don't have to correct plug on my wireing harness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrxxquad Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I think that is aftermarket and adjustable in the new one and that is ign...Cam sensor is up top on the head. Well Im going to try to change it so it fits my wiring harness thats fine, post pictures of the aftermarket one, someone might want it I used the old one because I don't have to correct plug on my wireing harness corrected for Texan translation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzel Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 I think that is aftermarket and adjustable in the new one and that is ign...Cam sensor is up top on the head. Well Im going to try to change it so it fits my wiring harness thats fine, post pictures of the aftermarket one, someone might want it I used the old one because I don't have to correct plug on my wireing harness corrected for Texan translation I will post another picture of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I think that is aftermarket and adjustable in the new one and that is ign...Cam sensor is up top on the head. Well Im going to try to change it so it fits my wiring harness Just bolt the old cover on and use the trigger plate from the old bike. There's no point in switching the sensor to the other cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzel Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 I think that is aftermarket and adjustable in the new one and that is ign...Cam sensor is up top on the head. Well Im going to try to change it so it fits my wiring harness Just bolt the old cover on and use the trigger plate from the old bike. There's no point in switching the sensor to the other cover. I did that already. the motor is sitting there waiting to be reinstalled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecome Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 almost there!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzel Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 almost there!! hopfully tonight i can put it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzel Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 And 8 hours later [ The motor is in the bike and everything is hooked up. We turned the motor over. Tomorrow will be the day I fire it I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrxxquad Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 nothing to it. I have pulled mine replaced the trans and replaced the motor in 8 hours, by my self. Good thing cause if anybody had come over I would never had got it done. Proud of you guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzel Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 nothing to it. I have pulled mine replaced the trans and replaced the motor in 8 hours, by my self. Good thing cause if anybody had come over I would never had got it done. Proud of you guys... Well It would have been sooner but we had some people come over. There is a new problem the bike doesn't want to run. I have checked the following 1 all electrical connections 2 vacum line is correct 3 pulled a fuel line to make sure fuel was flowing. IT IS Anyone one else have ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon haney Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Given the red sealant on the head gasket, all bets are off. I would have pulled the head off to check everything out first. Plus you could have put a thinner head gasket on and gained a little compression. As for the starting problem, check and make sure the cam timing is correct. The previous owner may have just "thrown" the motor together to sell it. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrxxquad Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 does it turn over? does it have spark? if it turns over. does it have compression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetzel Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 does it turn over? does it have spark? if it turns over. does it have compression? It does turn over. It has good compression. I will have to check for spark. Im assuming it would have spark since I used my coils. The head gasket Gaged the same thickness from the blown motor to the other one. I just went out and bought new plugs. Im going to change them and hope for the best. How would i check the timming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrxxquad Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 does it turn over? does it have spark? if it turns over. does it have compression? It does turn over. It has good compression. I will have to check for spark. Im assuming it would have spark since I used my coils. The head gasket Gaged the same thickness from the blown motor to the other one. I just went out and bought new plugs. Im going to change them and hope for the best. How would i check the timming? Well that is going to be a little harder, but a timing light will work with a induction pickup. When you pull the plugs stick one in the coil wire and touch it to some metal and turn over looking for a spark first, or just hold it and see if it shocks you.... Also, a little gas sqirted in the carbs will deal with gas flow problems, Check that alll your plugs are connected well. On top of the motor. Nothing pinched. by the frame, and motor. Make sure that you have put the plug wires on the right plug. And that the correct coil wire is to the + side of the coil. Got the ground wire on the frame and starter tight. I forget is it carbed or Fi. check all your fuzes including the one under the red cover... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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