matthend Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Just got back from trailering mine and my fathers bikes to north carolina and back. I unload my bike to discover the right helibar now sits about 1.5 inches lower! I have throttlemeister bar ends, so maybe that contributed. I coudn't have overtightened one side because the bike was upright on the trailer, and I was concerned about over compressing my forks. Can I bend it back up with a fence pole or something, or is it ruined structurally now? Thanks guys, I am so pissed I can't see straight!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Structurally, it'll be just fine. Aesthetically, all bets are off. The Canyon Dancer is just for minimizing the side-to-side motion. The real heavy work should be done elsewhere. I, myself, use an LA Chock as the primary restraint. Two straps from the forks at the top of the fender to the front-sides, two straps from the exhaust hangers to the rear-sides, and one strap anchoring the rear wheel so it doesn't bounce -- all of that just keeps it from bouncing out of the chock. But, then again, I've been accused of overdoing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John01XX Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I am surprised that a strap could bend one. I would call the manufacture and ask for a replacement as maybe the metal used was defective. I never heard of bending one short of a crash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicholy Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Odd. I had CD's on my Bird with Helis from Michigan to Nexxt. No bending. Not sure what to say other than check with Heli and see what they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Eddy Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I got sick of the canyon dancer messing up my grips. I went with soft loops around the forks just above the lower triple tree. I also use a Baxley or condor chock to help stabilize the bike. I have a friend who's BMW K1200RS had a bar bend from a canyon dancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrich Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I have thousands of miles transporting the XX, my 600 track bike and my 750. I have never had a issue with anything bending. The grips will move sometimes, but I cut some pieces of soft plastic tubing to go over the grips before putting on the CD, never had a grip issue after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthend Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 I should clarify. I bought the "new improved" more expensive CD. It has plastic cylinders that go over the bar ends, presumably to keep from messing with peoples grips. The problem with that is it puts all of the pressure on the very end of the bar instead of spreading the force across the entire grip. My throttlemeister bar end probably didn't help because it moved the point taking that force further out. Calling them and raising hell when I get a free minute. Will update with wht they say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthend Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 so i talked to Kent, the owner of canyon dancer. First off, UBER COOL GUY. He was out of town on a ride with about 120 other bikes, but called me. I explained the situation, and he told me to call heli bars and see if they can send me one side. If not he willl get me both sides on his dime. I told him i was talked into the newer ones, and he was surprised because he sells both for the same exact cost. He told me to take them to cycle gear and if they give me shit let him know and he will send me a set. He hinted around that he has one he will be able to talk about mid july, as it is in the patent process. Let me RECOMMEND THEM VERY HIGHLY!! KENT IS A STAND UP GUY AND UNDERSTANDS CUSTOMER SERVICE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I still don't think that it was the Canyon Dancer as I know of so many people that uses them including myself. Must have been weak Heli bars. Good customer service is a great thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthend Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 I still don't think that it was the Canyon Dancer as I know of so many people that uses them including myself. Must have been weak Heli bars. Good customer service is a great thing. Black, which one do you use? The original or the "bar harness 2"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John01XX Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I agree with Blackhawkxx, You should be calling and getting a replacement from Heli not Canyon Dancer The CD did its job perfectly and the Heli Bars faired That is good to know about CD but I think it is taking advantage of a good companys customer service to fix a problem that was not their fault or responsibility. Raise hell with Heli and explain what CD is willing to do as a helpful service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Black, which one do you use? The original or the "bar harness 2"? I use the original (bought before the "2" came out) but I put PVC pipe over the grips so the CD don't pull on the grips. Doing that pretty much acts like your "2" dancer. But like I said, I know many people who use the original weekly without bending bars. Matter of fact, this is the first time that I have ever heard of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrhemi Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I am not defending Heli-bar, but the instructions included with the new set I purchased for my Blackbird specifically stated DO NOT tie the bike down by the bars. That being said I have done it on occasion for a short distance with no ill effect but normally I tie down at the lower triple clamp. Mr. Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogoMan Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 It does sound like you used the CD improperly. Great customer service. I have a CD and strapped down an ST1100 with helibars with no problem. As others have said, get a wheel chock. I've got a Bike-Grab and it holds a bike perfectly without having to tie anything to the bars or compress the forks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthend Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 According to Kent at CD, i did not do anything he does not do on his rc51. I spoke to Heli, and they were not as customer friendly. They are calling CD and will call me back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB4XX Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Nexxt time just RIDE THERE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthend Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 yeah, josh that would have been ideal as I was going from Louisville to Sunset Beach NC (Smokies!!!) Unfortunately, the wife would have had to ride in the cage with the kids the entire way, and would have been plotting my death by the end of the trip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB4XX Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 And what's wrong with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01xxallen Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I have heard of CD's bending Heli's but never saw any. Since the Heli's have a bend upward, I wonder how they would do as an attachment point for soft hooks. Too far in? Maybe some of those soft covers for the straps. Adding length to the bars (throttlemiesters) will dramatically increase the leverage at the weld. I'm curious, what bent? The handlebar part or the curved part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpg Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 As had been mentioned: A) use a wheel chock. You can even build one out of scrap 2x4s if ya need one quickly/on the cheap do the real strapping by running the straps over the front fender mounts. This is MUCH more solid since it is below the point of suspension travel - you can ratchet that sucker into the chock until the bike is 100% immovable - no affect on the suspension, fork seals, etc. Next, throw those Canyon Dancers away - unnecessary when ya strap a bike down properly, trust me... I can see how they could bend bars, especially when folk are using them as the primary anchor... Frankly, I always wondered why people always try to run straps to the bars. Above the fender mounts (if you have conventional forks and the clearance to do so), or the upper or lower triple on a naked/dirt-bike make significantly better attachment points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthend Posted June 29, 2009 Author Share Posted June 29, 2009 So I talked to Helibars, the were not the most friendly in the world. According to them, they are going out of their way to send me a new set of bars ON KENT's DIME (at dealer pricing). I am sending my old bars to him for a little R&D stress testing. I will take pics of the old and new together when I switch them out. Speaking of which, how involved is it to change them? Can I just remove the switchgear and change them one at a time? Anything I need to watch out for? Also, Mods can I change the title to just fooking helibars bent? Dont want to bash the CD at all after the customer service he has given me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthend Posted June 29, 2009 Author Share Posted June 29, 2009 Pics of the bend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmeupto125 Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Just go to your original post and click on Edit, and choose Full Edit. You should then be able to alter your original header. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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