01xxallen Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I know this may have been discussed before, but.....I was standing behind the bird looking at the exhaust. The left cannister is closer to the tire than the right. It doesn't touch the swingarm but is close. How does this happen. It is a very low miles 2001. (2900). I think: 1. Some fatty stood on the passenger peg to mount up before I bought it. 2. I, or the P.O. strapped it down too tight on a trailer and bent the support. 3. Honda designed it that way. (Nah). 4. It's an optical illusion. (Nah). 5. Crash damage. (The cannister doesn't even touch the ground in a tipover. don't ask how I know. Damn.)(Nah. everything around it is perfect.) I'm leaning towards 1. Is the subframe weak there? What is the fix? Pull in the other direction? Spacer? Stop whining? Hookers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwimack Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I know this may have been discussed before, but.....I was standing behind the bird looking at the exhaust. The left cannister is closer to the tire than the right. It doesn't touch the swingarm but is close. How does this happen. It is a very low miles 2001. (2900). I think: 1. Some fatty stood on the passenger peg to mount up before I bought it. 2. I, or the P.O. strapped it down too tight on a trailer and bent the support. 3. Honda designed it that way. (Nah). 4. It's an optical illusion. (Nah). 5. Crash damage. (The cannister doesn't even touch the ground in a tipover. don't ask how I know. Damn.)(Nah. everything around it is perfect.) I'm leaning towards 1. Is the subframe weak there? What is the fix? Pull in the other direction? Spacer? Stop whining? Hookers? with the oems I had no problem when I went to Two Bros then i got this same shit happening. It got that close that it wore a groove in my swing arm, Have since replaced that . Saw the same shit with Bob da fishes bird..............plus the two bros like to move by themselves. I tried all sorts of things and ended up using a different mid pipe to get them away from the swing arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I though that I read a post years ago, about passengers repeatedly getting onto the bike from the same side. It said that eventually the stress would bend the subframe / peg hanger so the pipes looked off center! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBadExxample Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I've owned three different XXs. On each one the inside left muffler almost touches the swingarm. The clearance is around 5-10mm. A left side tipover can push the muffler even closer. Here's how I created more clearance. Loosen the muffler inlet clamp, footpeg nut and mid-muffler attachment bolt. Rotate the muffler up and away (to the outside). Tighten down the inlet clamp first, the footpeg bolt second and mid-muffler bolt last. Also consider loosening the footpeg bracket itself. Basically loosen everything, re-position the muffler and tighten everything, starting at the front and working to the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01xxallen Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 I've owned three different XXs. On each one the inside left muffler almost touches the swingarm. The clearance is around 5-10mm. A left side tipover can push the can even closer. Here's how I've created more clearance. Loosen the muffler inlet clamp, footpeg clamp and mid-muffler attachment bolt. Rotate the muffler up and away (to the outside). Tighten down the inlet clamp first, the footpeg bolt second and mid-muffler bolt last. Also consider loosening the footpeg bracket itself. Basically loosen everything, re-position the muffler and tighten everything, starting at the front and working to the rear. Good thinking. I'm also going to measure from the left passenger peg to the tire, and then compare it to the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon haney Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Or.......You could just buy a 4 into 1 system and never worry about it. Yes, I know they're expensive. Almost forgot: "Friends don't let friends ride fatties." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runner Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I noticed the same thing on my last bird before switching to a 4-1. I can't remember any passenger causing the problem. I used the loosening - straightening method mentioned above with success.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01xxallen Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Almost forgot: "Friends don't let friends ride fatties." It doesn't mean I'm not a nice person. Oh, you mean the passenger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon haney Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Almost forgot: "Friends don't let friends ride fatties." It doesn't mean I'm not a nice person. Oh, you mean the passenger! Duh! If you do want to ride a big'un, take the Harley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para045 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I though that I read a post years ago, about passengers repeatedly getting onto the bike from the same side. It said that eventually the stress would bend the sub frame / peg hanger so the pipes looked off centre! Yeah there are a few posts on the UK sites talking about pillions mounting by using the pillion pegs rather than the riders pegs and twisting the sub frame causing clearance issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 My stock cans were right but the Yosh's were too close. I spaced out the mounts to get the clearance I needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFT Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I have the same problem with the yoshi's on my Illinois bike. The left can has worn a groove in the swingarm. So far no problem like that with my 2-bros on my Alaska bike, but the left can does look closer to the wheel than the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I have the same problem with the yoshi's on my Illinois bike. The left can has worn a groove in the swingarm. So far no problem like that with my 2-bros on my Alaska bike, but the left can does look closer to the wheel than the right. Must have been an installation problem! Who put those pipes on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFT Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I have the same problem with the yoshi's on my Illinois bike. The left can has worn a groove in the swingarm. So far no problem like that with my 2-bros on my Alaska bike, but the left can does look closer to the wheel than the right. Must have been an installation problem! Who put those pipes on? I think that "groove" ended up there on the WIXX trip. I think the additional weight of a passenger and luggage had a bit to do with it. That thing was wallowing a bit with all that weight. Must of been that fatty I had on the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I think that "groove" ended up there on the WIXX trip. I think the additional weight of a passenger and luggage had a bit to do with it. That thing was wallowing a bit with all that weight. Must of been that fatty I had on the back. Dude, titties are heavy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Dude, titties are heavy! How much do yours weigh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01xxallen Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Dude, titties are heavy! When did I lose control of this topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Control is an illusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneXX Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Dude, titties are heavy! When did I lose control of this topic? Yesterday, 10:51 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Dude, titties are heavy! How much do yours weigh? 22.3 ounces for the right one and just a hair under 23 for the left one. I live tits, even mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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