Red J Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Interest list: scott s. G4XX CALCXX Pete in PA I've had a few guys ask about these again: Basically, it's a kit to disable the pulsed air injection system on the blackbird. You get two plates, a nifty little vinyl plug to block off the airbox, and a few little zip ties to keep the nifty little vinyl plug from coming loose. Price is 40 bones, delivered in the USA. Slightly more to Aussies, Danes and Canadians. I'll build them if I can get close to ten orders. Post here, to let me know if you're interested. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4XX Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I am interested, but we will have to get 9 others on board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beondwacko Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 What are the advantages of installing this? Say on an 01' XX? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Ease of maintainence and the ability to get accurate A/F readings in the exhaust stream. Having just ajusted my valves, I can't tell you how happy I was not to have to dick around with all the PAIR plumbing. Same goes for spark plug changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red J Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 I am interested, but we will have to get 9 others on board! "close to ten" What are the advantages of installing this? Say on an 01' XX? Tim answered it. Reduction of complexity, and for those who are measuring, an assurance that the AFR in the pipe is about what the AFR is in the combustion chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Got one last year and highly recommend. Build quality is excellent and it gets a lot of crap out of your way. Thought I'd put in my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALCXX Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I'll take a set. Where can I Pay-Pal ? I never gave this a thought--- an assurance that the AFR in the pipe is about what the AFR is in the combustion chamber. Thanks. I have another Dyno sitting coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helvet Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 What was the idea of Honda when they made it this way? They must have had a good reason for that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 What was the idea of Honda when they made it this way? They must have had a good reason for that..... Emmisions control, nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott s. Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 What was the idea of Honda when they made it this way? They must have had a good reason for that..... Emmisions control, nothing more. i'm in scott s. xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I'm in. I've had those towers plugged with RTV for years now, but I still have to remove them to pull the valve cover. The plates CAN stay in place when you pull the valve cover right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 The plates CAN stay in place when you pull the valve cover right? Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red J Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Build quality is excellent and it gets a lot of crap out of your way. Thanks! I'll take a set. Where can I Pay-Pal ? Not accepting funds yet, but will put you on the list. i'm in You're on the list. The plates CAN stay in place when you pull the valve cover right? Yep I assume the valve cover with the stock pair covers hits something? I've never had the valve cover off with the engine installed, so I'm a little fuzzy on these details. Everyone: Interest is good enough for me to proceed. I'll get with my fabricator and start the ball rolling. I'll post a new thread in the FS area when I'm ready to accept orders. Cheers! J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesXX01 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Got one last year and highly recommend. Build quality is excellent and it gets a lot of crap out of your way. Thought I'd put in my two cents. I second them, fits perfect! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDAZ XX Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Guys save yourselfs the money! Disconnect all the pair hoses and chuck'em along with charcoal can. Take the covers off the pair valve, grind the valve flapper off (rivets/brades) inside, reinsert to reuse the existing rubber washer, take the covers and fill it with JBWeld. Install the filled covers and put her back togather. This is the first thing I did to the RC51, removing the pair valve and doing a flapper mod. The little blockoff plates are cute, but you dont need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red J Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 Guys save yourselfs the money! Disconnect all the pair hoses and chuck'em along with charcoal can. Take the covers off the pair valve, grind the valve flapper off (rivets/brades) inside, reinsert to reuse the existing rubber washer, take the covers and fill it with JBWeld. Install the filled covers and put her back togather. This is the first thing I did to the RC51, removing the pair valve and doing a flapper mod. No need to remove the reeds from the valves, they will seal up the valve just fine, they are a one-way valve. Why remove the reed? A rubber cap can also be used to cap off the tit, no need to use paper + JB weld. Still need a cap for the airbox. Don't forget that. Charcoal can is only for CA bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDAZ XX Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Thats just the way I was shown to do it, I'm sure there are other tricks I still can learn. I bought the blockoff plates on my 02 and other than looking nice they were preatty much (IMO) a waste of $24, once I found out about filling the cap, which I did on my 03 RC. No one other than myself, will ever see the top of the heads anyway. The JB only insures nothing can enter or exit the pair cap. I'd be afraid a rubber cap would eventually deteriorate or disintegrate over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red J Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 I bought the blockoff plates on my 02 and other than looking nice they were preatty much (IMO) a waste of $24, once I found out about filling the cap, which I did on my 03 RC. No one other than myself, will ever see the top of the heads anyway. The JB only insures nothing can enter or exit the pair cap. I'd be afraid a rubber cap would eventually deteriorate or disintegrate over time. True, a handful of ways to accomplish the same thing (hell, you could use corks) but IMO, the plates are the cleanest way to declutter the area and rid yourself of the pair system. Most expensive, true. If anyone would rather do the Rogue method instead of buying the plates and decline the opportunity to buy the parts, I understand. If anyone wants to try the triple cap method, PM me and I'll send you the caps to try out. I'll even send spares, so that you can replace them when they dry rot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodantking Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 What is the FS area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 What is the FS area? For Sale area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 You can't remove the valve cover with the stock pair valves in place because they're too tall and hit the frame crossover brace. I'm still in. Might have to PM me, I don't look at the FS section often enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red J Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 You can't remove the valve cover with the stock pair valves in place because they're too tall and hit the frame crossover brace. I'm still in. Might have to PM me, I don't look at the FS section often enough. I will post a new thread, reply with the link here, and PM people. If you've posted in this thread or PM'd me requesting to be on the list, I will contact you. Thanks! J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 My opinion is I'd rather have a clean looking block-off plate than fuck around modifying the stock items with duct tape, especially if the difference is only a few bucks. These plates are very well made, and not only work great, but look great, as well. Very clean installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 My opinion is I'd rather have a clean looking block-off plate than fuck around modifying the stock items with duct tape, especially if the difference is only a few bucks. These plates are very well made, and not only work great, but look great, as well. Very clean installation. That's what I say. I've had the stock pairs filled with RTV for years and still have to remove them first to pull the valve cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Guys save yourselfs the money! Disconnect all the pair hoses and chuck'em along with charcoal can. Take the covers off the pair valve, grind the valve flapper off (rivets/brades) inside, reinsert to reuse the existing rubber washer, take the covers and fill it with JBWeld. Install the filled covers and put her back togather. This is the first thing I did to the RC51, removing the pair valve and doing a flapper mod. The little blockoff plates are cute, but you dont need them. Just a side note, JB Weld tends to get soft and rather runny under high heat and could melt sitting up there on top of the engine! Go with Jeremy's block off plates and be done with it. Money well spent on well engineered, high quality product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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