silvertippr2001 Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 :helpsign: GUYS THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!!!!!!!!! tonight I took the 99 baby out for a spin and a little heat on the power plant, every thing ok, couple of spins to the handle ,one wheel up no problem, so I park the bird in front of a friends house ,ok here comes , my brother ask for a spin on her (I now I'm an ass, but his my brother,younger brother that is) when he came back I notice that something was wrong because he came with the helmet off an extremly slow and kill the engine before stoping the bike, pass the keys and did not told me nothing (I now,thats why I want to kill him) when I went to start the bike she woud not start, at first it sounded like batery dead but somthing toll me it was more so I pushstart the bike an there was that HORRIBLE sound on the left side of the engine (if you're on the bike) if I rev the engine sounds like the pistons whants to come out ,if the bike is left along nothing happens. I thout it could be the cct since she's 15k already but what has me shaking is that the engine did not wanted to start with the starter motor and that the horrible sound is coming from the other side of the engine(stator side). any way call a friend and came home to get my pick up and broud her on my truck. we are going to start to check tomorow. For you who are asking youre selfs what the fuck did he did ,I'm still asking my self the same, when I ask him he tells me " nothing I joust park her did not heird anithing"then he call my friend and told him that he was going to pay for everything,what bring's me back TO WHAT THE FUCK HE DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok guys before you tell me ways to kill him let me tell you that at the moment I had my handgun with me, but if it wasent for the little fact that I'm a cop beleve you me I would have empty all 16 rounds on him ok so back to you and what can you guys tell me about this . P.D. Excuse my writing but beleve me I'm VERY VERY VERY F...... MAD :x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beondwacko Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Oil ? Did we check the oil when the bike came back ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 With a rev limiter functioning, there is little if anything he could have done to your bike. Really. If something happened, it was a matter of timing. Check the oil level maybe it was low. The only thing to blame your brother for perhaps hiding that something happened while he was on it. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 With a rev limiter functioning, there is little if anything he could have done to your bike. Really. If something happened, it was a matter of timing. Check the oil level maybe it was low.The only thing to blame your brother for perhaps hiding that something happened while he was on it. That's it. Well .... if he had it pegged out in 1rst gear for like 5 minutes straight lol he might have hurt something, even then I bet the bird engine could take it if the heat didn't get way up. Whatever happened was most likely due to an oil starvation issue. Either it was low when he took it, or the oil pump or something important failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 With a rev limiter functioning, there is little if anything he could have done to your bike. Rev limiters are easy to beat if you're downshifting :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartonmd Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I agree with everybody here... especially Chris... If he won't tell you anything, he did something... maybe downshifting to first at 100mph?? Who knows... If he was just riding around and it went bang on him, he'd be jumping up and down about how he didnt' do anything and was just riding when it went boom... Sounds like that's not the case... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shovelstrokeed Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Could it be that he broke the end of the crankshaft where the alternator mounts? Used to be a problem back in the day. Usually doesn't make a clank after it breaks though. Rod bearing? Broken rod? Hard to tell, from what I have seen of the inside of these things they are built like a tank motor. Pretty hard to crunch one unless you run without lubricant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharknes Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 maybe he hit somsthing with the bottom end and lost oil, that would do it. did you check for leaks, check for oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardCranium Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Strange. I have (Im sure most of us have) witnessed several different people start their bikes up, some even completely cold, and pin them on the rev limiter for half a minute. The engine is bulletproof. Even if he downshifted to too low of a gear usually that will just lock up the rear wheel. Don't ask me how I know. Stuff does break though. He is a punk for trying to hide it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertippr2001 Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 thanks for youre replies guys. Today I'm a little more calm, I check the bike and she dosen't want to die. check oil level(normal) and it looked ok to, no debrees of metal of any kind. I went and put the keys in, switch to run position and push the starter switch to see what happens and almost shure nothing because last night nothing did , but to surprise my big mouth she came ALIVE!!!!!!! ALIVE!!!!!! by her self. the knocking sound still is there but now and after putting some ear to her I'm not that shure it isin't the so much talked about CCT. The knocking sound comes to be herd when she hits 2k on the rev's. don't now if it stops the sound after that revs because I don't have the guts to pass the 2k on the rev's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneXX Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Something ain't right. Trailer it to a dealer... pronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K9XX Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I agree, needs looking into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flitemdic Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Something ain't right. Trailer it to a dealer... pronto +1 more, that hurts just reading it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertippr2001 Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 thanks guys all ready been taking care off tomorrow will trie to take her there .if any one else has any Ideas? there welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_40 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 thanks guys  all ready been taking care off tomorrow will trie to take her there .if any one else has any Ideas?there welcome Best of luck... So that you know, my CCT started making noise at about 2K first so it MIGHT just be that. Take it to the shop and fine out for sure if it starts and runs it's a good sign, don't push it and get it checked before real damage happens...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertippr2001 Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 thank's IceMan I realy hope for it to be the CCT. Let you guys now what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obby Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 I bet he jumped the cam chain and bent some valves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertippr2001 Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 guys today I check the cct an the chain and to my bad luck anything looks bad . for what is worth I going to have to open the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelergaugephil Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I agree with OBBY! I did the same thing on a GS1000 years ago, I over revved it and bent the conrods/valves, completely messed everything up, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helvet Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Could be a broken clutch-plate...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertippr2001 Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 the thing is that she woud have bend some valve, the knocking sound would be at all times (correct me if I'm wrong) and the only knocking sound is presented whe the rev's hits the 2k mark. then we add that under the 2k mark and if let along with the engine running, thereis no knocking, no turbulence , no up and down , not even the smoking exoust cans :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertippr2001 Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 UPDATES: I'm already in progress of bringing down the engine. whe made several checks today and we are pretty shure the noise is coming from the front of the engine. the mecanic thinks it could have jump a teeth on one of the cams and maibe just maibe the knocking sound that I'm feeling is from one of the valves hiting the cam because she's out of timing. I'm just telling what he thinks that could be but like he said , we don't now for shure until we open the engine. So for now we are blind kip you guys inform on the progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rockmeupto125 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 the mecanic thinks it could have jump a teeth on one of the cams and maibe just maibe the knocking sound that I'm feeling is from one of the valves hiting the cam because she's out of timing. Your mechanic is an idiot. The engine is too expensive to piss around with. Take it someplace where there are people who have working brains. I'm no genius, and can't hear your motor, but I can tell you that jumping a tooth on the cam sprocket will NOT cause the valves to hit the cam any differently than when it is IN time. We're glad to try to help, but its pretty hard to diagnose a problem like this without hands on. What did you find on the CCT that made you think there was a problem? today I check the cct an the chain and to my bad luck anything looks bad . for what is worth I going to have to open the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertippr2001 Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 sorry; what I ment was that the cct and the chain looked ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBXX Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 any updates ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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