silverbird1100 Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Anyone know of a good link for balancing tires? I think I'm doing it right, but I can't find a heavy spot. I've made a near friction-less device that as far as I can see works just fine. Are tires getting better all the time and don't need balancing or am I doing it wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 http://www.clarity.net/~adam/tire-changing-doc.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Krypt Keeper Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Out of probably 20 tires I have had replaced 1 didn't need any weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider99XX Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Has anyone tried the ceramic beads for balancing their tires? I think the company is Innovative Balancing or something like that. According to them you'll never need external balancing again. The price is really inexpensive too, like $1.99 a bag and you only need a bag or two per tire depending on tire size plus you can install them yourself through the valvestem. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Krypt Keeper Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 got a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 The front and rear Contiforces I just mounted needed no weight. No shake shimmy or decell. wobble up to 150 so far. Since I started doing it my self I've marked the heavy spot on my rim which isn't the valve stem on either rim. I think tires are getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbird1100 Posted July 6, 2005 Author Share Posted July 6, 2005 How much does the imbalance of the wheel itself matter? I had a set of tires balanced by a race tire supplier at the club races and ever since I havn't needed to re-balance with several different tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 The imbalance of the rim never changes. (although from your post you have a way?) So you mark the heavy spot on the rim and line up the tire dot on that point so you require less added weight (or none). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider99XX Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Here is the link to the ceramic beads used for balancing your tires. http://www.innovativebalancing.com/ The site doesn't list mc tires on the tire size list but makes reference to the amount of beads you need to use elsewhere in the site. It looks pretty interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I don't see a chart for Motorcycle tires, why?They don't need one. The formula is simple. 1 oz for small to medium tires, 2 oz for larger tires, like the rears on Harley's, BMW's, Goldwings, etc. Motorcyle tires tend to be much more evenly balanced than car and truck tires are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 So, do you guys think that the ceramic beads are a good idea or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 So, do you guys think that the ceramic beads are a good idea or not? No, personally. A lazy person's way of balancing tires, and will change every time you start & stop. Great idea for the heavy truck industry, but there are better ways of balancing automotive & motorcycle tires, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_40 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I don't know if I want beads of any kind rolling around in my tire at 160MPH... just doesn't seem like a good idea to me.... I'm considered that liquid stuff, but it would be messy when changing tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider99XX Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Seems like anything inside the tire with enough weight to balance the tire, at 160+ mph could cause problems. Just a thought. BUT! Hopefully the people at Innovative Balancing did their research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 OK, someone help me out. How can a liquid or BB's or whatever in a tire ever hope to actually help balance it out? No I've never, nor will ever put anything inside my tires, tube or tubeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfuctx Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 OK, someone help me out.How can a liquid or BB's or whatever in a tire ever hope to actually help balance it out? No I've never, nor will ever put anything inside my tires, tube or tubeless. Exactly what i am thinking. Consider this, A tire is a rubber tubular ring that (when perfectly balanced) should form a near perfect circle. So, if this circle were to have a heavy spot in it, and if it was sliced across the diameter, this circular shape should become parabolic with the heaviest point being at the apex of the parabola (like a rock in a sling shot). This is why it will wear out to the steel belts in one spot if left unbalanced. Now replace the rock with some beads and i think they would collect at the heaviest point of the deformed ring, making the tire more unbalanced. I'm no engineer, well not yet atleast, but this is beyond me if it works even marginally :? . IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I've run Ride-On in my Valkyrie tires for several years now. It's basically a street version of Slime, but I am still doubtful as to the puncture resistance properties. The reason I use it is that it is self-leveling -- as soon as you put it in, you go ride around the block to get it spread out (centrifugal forces will do that). It fine-tunes the balance of the tires amazingly well. The ceramic beads might very well do the same. It's hard to say without trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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