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Go for it, IMO. Hugo

I have not tried the 020s so I can't be of help (like that's a surprise :grin: ). Hugo

:shock: Um, you know that old joke where the guy tells the doc, "When I do this, it hurts." Doc says... "Don't do that!" It was a just a test, I needed to see the limit, but I would agree with doc. Hugo

Few things on AV 45/46. Interesting. Same mileage (4400) on mine and it is a bot more worn out in the center (winter pounding not enough twisties action). As with the BT 010s, the wear increases in the center past mid-life (I'll get 1,000-1,500 miles before the center wear mark). The good part is that the handling does not degrade significantly over time (quick natural steering, good feedback). The bad part is wet traction, nothing really bad but be cautious in borderline wet conditions. Yesterday, 2nd gear 3,500 rpms cold tire bad wet road (just getting wet, fog type, clean surface), opened it hard (to see) and the rear gave way right away. Nothing really alarming for a sport touring tire type. Dry traction is never an issue. Hugo

Hugo---why dont you go ask Howard--what Lindemann did to his valving ---and share that with all of us, especially Mirth---I think he might be a tad surprised :roll: Howard does not remember what was exactly done (and Lindemannn has memory lapses). Hugo

Said 31-36 but it is more between 26 and 35 (wrist factor, city, high speed, trailer, fat uggly chick pilon). Hugo

I've ridden my bike (quite a bit) and Howard's bike (XRDracer) and i'll put it in articulate terms: I WANT TO UPGRADE ARRRRRRRGHHHH DON'T GET BETWEEN ME AND MY FUCKING UPGRADE . Now, is it because of the fluid thingy or the springy - other - thingy in the forks, dunno :grin: . Hugo

Worse than BT 010s that's for sure (but the 010s are very sticky). Other than that, I would not say they are worse than most. It just striked me after the 010s (I ran three or four sets of these). Hugo

Sorry for the delayed response, I was having trouble posting for a few days there. Anyways- I don't blame the tire for that slippage. The roads were pretty dirty, and I'd been off the bike for three months (as in a little rusty and ham-fisted). I've pushed the Avons a lot harder than I did that day, with no slipping or sliding around. I am thinking about trying a set of M1's, just to see what the difference might be, but they'll have to be signifigantly better in the grip department to make up for the milage I'm getting out of the Avons. BTW- Jerry was on Dunlop 208's The Avons 45/46 will slip more easily than stickier tires (on questionable surfaces) but on dry/clean surfaces they are more than adequate IMO. The only thing I'd be careful about is wet grip. Hugo

I'd have to check but I should be around 3,500/4,000 miles on my rear 46 and it shows signficant wear (it still remains very nice to ride on). From a look at, I'd say I'll get 6,000 miles out of it. Hugo