XXitanium Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 ...to know is already in another thread. I just had a beer for breakfast. I'm going to a family get-together on my wife's side of the family later today. I have to go in to work tomorrow to catch up from my trip. Sometimes it's not about the actual repair. My family wanted to ride the bikes to the event today. I have some fixing to have enough for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Bring these forward. http://www.cbr1100xx.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=53455 http://www.cbr1100xx.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=33318 http://www.cbr1100xx.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=81041 It is my understanding that a dying battery can take out a stator/regulator. Does anyone else know of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Knievel Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I've heard that, but I'm not sure why. The stator/rectifier produce more power than the bike needs and maintains a charge on the battery when running. I'm not sure being in constant "charge mode" hurts the system. It might be that a dead battery can be the result of a faulty stator/rectifier which can under/over-charge the battery and make it go prematurely. Hence why you test them every time you need to get a new battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Zero - You state they produce more charge than is needed. I'm interested in a heavy duty stator. ...more from the standpoint that I want something able to take a tidge more heat. http://www.cbr1100xx.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=59455&page=2&hl=%2Bheavy+%2Bduty+%2Bstator#entry684694 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Knievel Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I'm not sure if you really need "heavy duty" or just one that's well-made. Heavy duty could relate more to output than construction. I got mine from Rick's and his stuff comes highly recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 I've heard that, but I'm not sure why. The stator/rectifier produce more power than the bike needs and maintains a charge on the battery when running. I'm not sure being in constant "charge mode" hurts the system. It might be that a dead battery can be the result of a faulty stator/rectifier which can under/over-charge the battery and make it go prematurely. Hence why you test them every time you need to get a new battery. I have not usually checked those items. I will make a mental note though. http://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/part/21-126/MDBIb25DQlIxMTAwWFg= http://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com http://cx500forum.com/forum/general-discussion/5716-why-do-stators-fail.html#post72170 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Krypt Keeper Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 They are in reality simple devices the stator produces power.. faster your engine spins the more power it produces. regulator does just that. it regulates that power so you don't send 40+ volts directly to your battery and electro system. heavy duty i wouldn't worry about.. biggest ghost out of the box on a stator is the enamel coating on the copper wires or the epoxy breaking down from being in a constant bath of scalding hot as oil.. regulator also has heat going against it. and eventually will also fail from long exposure to heat. Ricks is suppose to be some good stuff and has a warranty. I have also talked with a local company who said ricks is cheaper than them to rewind my stator. But, would be happy to show me how to do it, and let me rewind my own for free at their shop. Got 2 guys there that has been doing it for over 40 yrs combined. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 I took it to the stealer for service. ...no good time to work on it. I don't think the FI is a very big draw. I rode most of 4 hours with the headlight "out" and it didn't take much charge off the new battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Krypt Keeper Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Lights are a huge constant draw on the charging system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beestoys Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 The bird is pretty much maxed out on the stator. There are 2 design types Delta (ours) and y configuration. The Y configuration is what you will get with a high output version. Trade off is shorter lifespan. I worked with Rick a few years back when I was having short stator lifespans. 20K average. now my daily commute at that time was 90 miles to and from work. I live in AZ so the average temp was 100 degrees and I was routinely running in traffic for 11/2 hours on my run home in the heat of the day. At times ambient was 115. Well Rick informed me that given my environment 20k was pretty good. He took a stator and gave it good going over with his engineer friend. The conclusion, there is no way to increase windings for a higher load out put wire size and insulation thickness were the blocks. Stator core couldn't be improved for the same reason space constraints. So what we have is about the best you'll get. I would recommend going to a MOSFET R/R rick looked at it after I had mentioned and found it gave a 50 watt increase as well as being much more efficient and reliable. Hope this gives you better insight. Ohh also as mentioned these stators are oil cooled as well as the case being out in the open air. I make a point to always park my bird on the center stand. The side stand leans the bike over obviously but what many may not consider is that it also floods the stator housing with hot oil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 Could someone please direct me to the auxiliary fan/cooling thread. I looked - quite a while, a couple weeks back - no luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXera Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Is this the thread you were looking for? cbr1100xx.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=53662&hl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 http://www.cbr1100xx.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=53662&page=2 No, I thought someone just did one - Don't actually recall seeing pictures. Thanks for the link though. I see I posted in the one you listed BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 Guesses? How long should it take to get a stator cover gasket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Knievel Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Guesses? How long should it take to get a stator cover gasket? All you can do is call your local Honda parts counter and see what they say. I've rarely waited more than a week to get a part because someone has it and it can be shipped right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 We're at three weeks. I'm wondering if I'm getting the run-around.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Is "compuncted" a word? I went and picked it up today. They diagnosed a bad stator and the diodes were OK on a static test, but couldn't diagnose a dynamic test w/out having the new stator installed. It's a Rick's stator. I ordered an OEM gasket off flEabay..... I have an early regulator in a box out in the garage - spare. Can they be re-wired? Man, it was a fun ride home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 I'm starting to put it back in. I think this may have been the factory stator. There appears to be a stealth wire-tie below the tank that has a plug that pins into the frame. It looks like it's main purpose would be to keep wires out of the way while the bike was being assembled. That ook a little monkeying around. I had to take the tank loose. The new stator came with the rubber grommet/seals on the wires for where they poke through the stator cover. It looks like (the factory?) had some silicone placed in with the old grommets. I noticed it when I was cleaning off the old gasket. QUESTION: Do I need to put in some RTV sealant like was there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Knievel Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I would. They aren't waterproof, but you don't want just anything getting in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 I did. Caleb texted me. I had blue laying around. I finished the stator install. I don't seem to have a correct amount of fairing screws though. I'm looking at the left side. I'll highlight the ones I think I have wrong. Along the top row, I have two small ones and a large one. There is a place for a small one at the bottom front that ties into the back-plane - gets a lot of mud kicked up on it. I have a small one there. I seem to remember taking a large one from below/behind the front wheel. I didn't look closely and I don't see how it would work either. There is one through the flexible piece that sets behind your leg. That looks like it should be small. I have a large there. There is one that goes below the stator cover. I have a large one there. One of the large ones from stock has been replaced by a frame slider. My maintenance manual isn't really specific on which ones go where. Could someone confirm these for me please? Thanks, Bill ...from the other thread. I went past my mechanic. He threw a meter on it for free. It appears to be charging. He showed how the test goes. You start the bike and the amps drop off as the battery starts to top off. I took some pics. Is there a way to batch load? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 Pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 more pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 aaaand, a couple more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted October 8, 2013 Author Share Posted October 8, 2013 ...then my camera battery went dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVLXX Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Lots of pictures.... lots and lots... ... As for the Bike... Problem solved... Y/N? New voltage? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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