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Which Oil should I use? (2005)


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I don't have any problems hitting a false neutral. Bike now has 32k on it and has had M1 for most of its life.

The Triumph has the motorcycle blend of M1 in it now but I think I'll change it to the regular stuff on the next change.

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I have run dino Delvac and Syn Rotella both and can't tell a bit of difference. I am interested more in shifting at the moment. My bike's got 26000 on it and it feels rougher going from neutral to first. That clunk is starting to get on my nerves. I believe that there is a rubber piece in the motor that slows down the shaft when the clutch is engaged? Mine must be wearing out. Anyone feel that the higher moly oils improve shifting? I know some feel that the Mobile One is better in this department.

If you really want to find out what oil provides the best performance, ask the guy with the suspenders on the scooter in the pub post. I guarantee you that he will find out soon or seize it. I had an S-90 when I was a kid and it coughed up two pistons on gas station oil. People who ride small bore bikes have a real concern / opinion in oil selection. Blackbird owners do not need to give it a second thought (as long as it is full) IMHO.

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I borescoped the cylinders, and they looked like brand new.

You have a borescope? Those things are not cheap $$$. What would a cop be doing with a borescope? :lol:

Just a guess. Body cavity searches? :lol:

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Canola in the stir-fry.

That's bullshit J.

That's just Not right. That Canola is like Artery Killer.

What are you cooking?

You can't call bullshit and not make a suggestion.

I think, actually, we use peanut in the stirfry.

Veggies, mainly. To go with eggrolls.

J.

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I was running M1 15/50, but I can't find it anymore.

I can't find it either....

at least not at any of the Local Yocals. :?

Maybe I'll throw some Valvoline Syn Power in it.... it's supposed to have over 2000 ppm of Moly in it. Then see if the clutch slips.... :twisted:

Fuck... I just might. Wouldn't be that hard to wash off the Clutch disc with some BrakeClean and slap it back together.

You can't call bullshit and not make a suggestion.

I think, actually, we use peanut in the stirfry.

Veggies, mainly. To go with eggrolls.

J.

Good point, My bad, I'll have to go home and see what we use... :oops:

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Stan Wilson is a bike messenger in the UK, who put 410,000 miles on his '98 XX and had 205,000 miles on his '01 XX when he was interviewed by a British bike magazine a few months ago. In the article, Stan stated that he uses Honda OEM filters and cheap 10w 40 car oil. Of course, he changes them each week.

Therefore, just ride all the time and you'll never have to worry about which oil you use in your XX.

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I borescoped the cylinders, and they looked like brand new.

You have a borescope? Those things are not cheap $$$. What would a cop be doing with a borescope? :lol:

Just a guess. Body cavity searches? :lol:

:lol::lol: Well, I never said I owned one :wink:

It's good having neighbors with expensive hobbies :twisted:

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I've had my XX for about a year, and the previous owner had used regular 10-40 petroleum oil for 21,000 miles. I did an oil change with Honda HP4 and soon noticed it was making more noise on initial cold start-ups. The noise would only last for a few seconds, and I think it was coming from the clutch basket. I drained it after about 500 miles and put Honda GN4 back in, and it soon went away. Now have 28,000 and all is very well.

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Does ANYBODY have a link to some of those OIL analysis charts...???

New charts, that is.... I've got an old chart that's over 2 years old, and I've been searching the web, but haven't found anything yet. The one I've got is a Butler "CAT" or something like that.

and J. I was wrong.... Harvest Canola. :) gotta watch them saturated Fats you know. :wink:

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I use Motul 300V, 10W40 for the winter, 15W50 for the summer.

I am changing it just when it starts getting black. :shock:

How cold does it get in Greece in the winter?

Seems like you should be able to run that 15/50 year-round. I mean your only talking a diference of 5 on the viscosity at start up.

It gets close to 0 deg in Athens.

I feel that the g/box works better with the 10W40 (especially in my daily 20km trips to work). For this and the reduced parasitic losses, I would like to use it all year round, but during summer temperatures can go up to 45 deg C, so I am not taking any chances.

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Wow. 0°C - 45°C temperature swing in one place? Bravo...

J.

Welcome to my world :wink: :lol:

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I've got the MCN, and Sport Rider articles on oil. Don't know if they have them on their web sites. All the PPM's you want. (no I can't scan, sorry)

Mobil 1 was at the top, above a lot of motorcycle oils costing $10 a quart!

Mobil 1 is $20 for a 5 qt. jug at Wally World.

That is why I use it.

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we've just received a new Motorcycle only fully synthetic oil in South Africa, haven't got the name with me, but these guys gives the following guarentee on the oil: if the oil damages any clutch, clutch basket or any gears they will replace the system free of charge. We have used this oil on a Honda GL1100, GL1000 and GL1500 and man did we notice a big difference in smootheness overall. The bikes run smoother, lighter on fuel, and also starts with less noise.

Overall this product seem worth while to test on a Bird.

Also used it now on a Honda CBR 600 F4 to test it for higher performance requirements.

Will post the name tomorrow, as soon as I get it.

This stuff is not cheap here, 1 litre will cost ZAR 60.00 = +- USD 9.0 per Litre

I know that there was a post about not to use fully synthetic oil on the XX, the clutch doesn't like it. Seeing how the company is prepared to pay for any damage caused due to their product, I think I'll ty it on the next oil change.

Will let you know

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Been reading up on Amsoil...

and I'm not quite sure about it yet.... according to Amsoil, there product is better than every other oil out there, and it doesn't have shit for an additive package.

Strange.

Still reseaching.

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MoBil 1 ya it is a great blend of petroleum and synthetic, but.

AMSOIL is "SIMPLY THE BEST"

and it is a "full synthetic"

Uh, that's not exactly right... Amsoil and Mobil 1 are true blue synthetics.

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Mobile 1 is a blend.

A few years back, when Castro released their Full Synthic.

It has a petroleum base.

Mobile sued, and "lost".

The Federal Board of Petroleum products in their decision

decided that petrolium from the ground was being refined

to such a high state that it did not matter if it was used

as a base stock for oils that bore the Fully Synthics label.

Mobile jumped on this. Why because it's alot cheaper

to produce the synthics product this way.

Amsoil, put some 10/40 in the bike last year.

It still looks clean, the bike still shifts clean, and I

can still run up through downtown Los Angeles on the

110 and not have the cooling fans come on, unless I just get

stopped and cannot get some air moving through the rad.

"that also has Amsoil full syn ani freeze".

Amsoil, "I've been sold since I 1st put it in my bike".

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