sp20 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Hi Tried this one in the other forum without luck , hope you gyus can help . I dont have the cams to mesure . Hi Does anyone know how to identify carb or inj-cams . Im interested in these , are they carb or injektioncams ? Inlet camshaft is stamped R2, F, 9 Exhaust camshaft is stamped R2, F, 2 Cheers Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 IIRC, FI camshafts will have a cam pulse sensor on the exhaust cam while carb cams will not. No idea on the numbers. FI exhaust cam w/pulse sensor- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp20 Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 IIRC, FI camshafts will have a cam pulse sensor on the exhaust cam while carb cams will not. No idea on the numbers. FI exhaust cam w/pulse sensor- Thanks Red , best answer so far So now i can be 100% certain that these ara carbcams ?? [ M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANKSXXX Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 IIRC, FI camshafts will have a cam pulse sensor on the exhaust cam while carb cams will not. No idea on the numbers. FI exhaust cam w/pulse sensor- Thanks Red , best answer so far So now i can be 100% certain that these ara carbcams ?? [ M or FI cams with the pulsar removed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partsman Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 It's been years since I had mine out (ok 2 years,long enough) but are there not any other marks on the cams? IF they have "MAT E" then for sure you have f.i. cams.This should be right on the shafts near the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp20 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 It's been years since I had mine out (ok 2 years,long enough) but are there not any other marks on the cams? IF they have "MAT E" then for sure you have f.i. cams.This should be right on the shafts near the middle. Thanks guys , ill have to make the dealer check them for lift MAT E etc . Need originals for my turboproject . My former originals are welded / grinded and are Webcams racingcams today in a different engine . And i have a pair of Kentcams thats only grinded to greter dur & lift , not what i need for my turbo . Ill trade the Kentcams for original if anyone is interested in going to sweden M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANKSXXX Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Either cam set will work fine with a turbo. I also tried a carbed intake with a FI exhaust, degreed to 105-105. That was fine also. Boost makes the HP and unless you are looking for extreme HP, the cams aren't really that important. Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp20 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 Either cam set will work fine with a turbo. I also tried a carbed intake with a FI exhaust, degreed to 105-105. That was fine also. Boost makes the HP and unless you are looking for extreme HP, the cams aren't really that important. Hank Thanks No extrem power , max 300whp . M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANKSXXX Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Either cam set will work fine with a turbo. I also tried a carbed intake with a FI exhaust, degreed to 105-105. That was fine also. Boost makes the HP and unless you are looking for extreme HP, the cams aren't really that important. Hank Thanks No extrem power , max 300whp . M Are you going to replace any engine internals or lower the CR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp20 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Either cam set will work fine with a turbo. I also tried a carbed intake with a FI exhaust, degreed to 105-105. That was fine also. Boost makes the HP and unless you are looking for extreme HP, the cams aren't really that important. Hank Thanks No extrem power , max 300whp . M Are you going to replace any engine internals or lower the CR? 2 mm stainless "homemade " gasket , mitsubishi T16 fan , Marklund IC & Marklund or homemade exaust ( dont remember what you call it ) and definitly homemade plenum , normal swedish style so to say . M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANKSXXX Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 " normal Swedish style" and "Markland" IC and exh should yield very nice results... I would consider pistons approaching 300 HP Best of luck! Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp20 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 " normal Swedish style" and "Markland" IC and exh should yield very nice results... I would consider pistons approaching 300 HP Best of luck! Hank Thanks I know what you think of turbopistons and 260-270+ whp and i think we might have discussed it via pm . After doing some resarch with guys here in swe ( Marklund & P Andersson ) and even with some of you guys ive decided to go as far as i end up with this hardware and not be chickensafe . The only thing that looks to be an issue is mulitlayergasket and BB-headbolts so i will run solid gasket glued with apropriate loctitespray ( dont remember nr right now ) and hope to be lucky ( app 280+ and no failior ) . If things happen i can always put my high-cr engine back again M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANKSXXX Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 " normal Swedish style" and "Markland" IC and exh should yield very nice results... I would consider pistons approaching 300 HP Best of luck! Hank Thanks I know what you think of turbopistons and 260-270+ whp and i think we might have discussed it via pm . After doing some resarch with guys here in swe ( Marklund & P Andersson ) and even with some of you guys ive decided to go as far as i end up with this hardware and not be chickensafe . The only thing that looks to be an issue is mulitlayergasket and BB-headbolts so i will run solid gasket glued with apropriate loctitespray ( dont remember nr right now ) and hope to be lucky ( app 280+ and no failior ) . If things happen i can always put my high-cr engine back again M By PM? I guess I don't remember your log-in name (sp20) unless you're the guy who likes big plenums at low boost levels...(Martin?) Both Eric Marklund and P Andersson have forgotten more than most guys, including myself, know about turbocharging. I would take their advice as the gospel. I have not heard of any headgasket nor headbolt failures but that doesn't mean they haven't happened. Let us know how the pistons hold up and for how long. Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp20 Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 " normal Swedish style" and "Markland" IC and exh should yield very nice results... I would consider pistons approaching 300 HP Best of luck! Hank Thanks I know what you think of turbopistons and 260-270+ whp and i think we might have discussed it via pm . After doing some resarch with guys here in swe ( Marklund & P Andersson ) and even with some of you guys ive decided to go as far as i end up with this hardware and not be chickensafe . The only thing that looks to be an issue is mulitlayergasket and BB-headbolts so i will run solid gasket glued with apropriate loctitespray ( dont remember nr right now ) and hope to be lucky ( app 280+ and no failior ) . If things happen i can always put my high-cr engine back again M By PM? I guess I don't remember your log-in name (sp20) unless you're the guy who likes big plenums at low boost levels...(Martin?) Both Eric Marklund and P Andersson have forgotten more than most guys, including myself, know about turbocharging. I would take their advice as the gospel. I have not heard of any headgasket nor headbolt failures but that doesn't mean they haven't happened. Let us know how the pistons hold up and for how long. Hank You have partly good memory , im the one with big plenum but Micke is the lowboostguy . I by the way built his plenum which he already sold Br Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANKSXXX Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 " normal Swedish style" and "Markland" IC and exh should yield very nice results... I would consider pistons approaching 300 HP Best of luck! Hank Thanks I know what you think of turbopistons and 260-270+ whp and i think we might have discussed it via pm . After doing some resarch with guys here in swe ( Marklund & P Andersson ) and even with some of you guys ive decided to go as far as i end up with this hardware and not be chickensafe . The only thing that looks to be an issue is mulitlayergasket and BB-headbolts so i will run solid gasket glued with apropriate loctitespray ( dont remember nr right now ) and hope to be lucky ( app 280+ and no failior ) . If things happen i can always put my high-cr engine back again M By PM? I guess I don't remember your log-in name (sp20) unless you're the guy who likes big plenums at low boost levels...(Martin?) Both Eric Marklund and P Andersson have forgotten more than most guys, including myself, know about turbocharging. I would take their advice as the gospel. I have not heard of any headgasket nor headbolt failures but that doesn't mean they haven't happened. Let us know how the pistons hold up and for how long. Hank You have partly good memory , im the one with big plenum but Micke is the lowboostguy . I by the way built his plenum which he already sold Br Martin ..and you did a beautiful job on it too, even if you never answered my question regarding plenum design...lol I got a PM from Micke and he said he sold all his motorcycle stuff...a shame as I hate to see the sport loose good people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp20 Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 " normal Swedish style" and "Markland" IC and exh should yield very nice results... I would consider pistons approaching 300 HP Best of luck! Hank Thanks I know what you think of turbopistons and 260-270+ whp and i think we might have discussed it via pm . After doing some resarch with guys here in swe ( Marklund & P Andersson ) and even with some of you guys ive decided to go as far as i end up with this hardware and not be chickensafe . The only thing that looks to be an issue is mulitlayergasket and BB-headbolts so i will run solid gasket glued with apropriate loctitespray ( dont remember nr right now ) and hope to be lucky ( app 280+ and no failior ) . If things happen i can always put my high-cr engine back again M By PM? I guess I don't remember your log-in name (sp20) unless you're the guy who likes big plenums at low boost levels...(Martin?) Both Eric Marklund and P Andersson have forgotten more than most guys, including myself, know about turbocharging. I would take their advice as the gospel. I have not heard of any headgasket nor headbolt failures but that doesn't mean they haven't happened. Let us know how the pistons hold up and for how long. Hank You have partly good memory , im the one with big plenum but Micke is the lowboostguy . I by the way built his plenum which he already sold Br Martin ..and you did a beautiful job on it too, even if you never answered my question regarding plenum design...lol I must have missed it or thought it was for laughts or some....... Shoot if its not a naughty one , if it is please via pm M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANKSXXX Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Actually Martin, I was looking for some education. I noticed you used a large plenum which guys did here too, but more so for the big HP, big boost motors. Lower HP setups seemed to have smaller plenums. I gave as an example my Blackbird plenum (255HP), Mr Turbo's plenum on his Bandit/GSXR kits (200-275HP), and an MCXpress kit plenum I have on a 300 HP Bandit. All use small plenums. I have a buddy with a large plenum with secondaries on his Busa with closer to 400 HP. My question was when would you use a small plenum and when would you use a large plenum and why? BTW, If you would like, I can drag out my camsets and look for identifying marks... Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp20 Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Actually Martin, I was looking for some education. I noticed you used a large plenum which guys did here too, but more so for the big HP, big boost motors. Lower HP setups seemed to have smaller plenums. I gave as an example my Blackbird plenum (255HP), Mr Turbo's plenum on his Bandit/GSXR kits (200-275HP), and an MCXpress kit plenum I have on a 300 HP Bandit. All use small plenums. I have a buddy with a large plenum with secondaries on his Busa with closer to 400 HP. My question was when would you use a small plenum and when would you use a large plenum and why? BTW, If you would like, I can drag out my camsets and look for identifying marks... Hank Ok , good . I thought i might have wrote somthing totaly stupid :icon_silenced: My only input in this matter , without scanning my inbox for several years , is that Erik stated that a plenum should be at least 1,5 X engine cc . But the bigger the better , no more input from him in this matter . My own thoughts in the matter is that a bigger plenum gives a smother more stabil pressure over all , in our case 4 , carbs . I think for certain that it makes small differences but in my case when i build my own for free ill make it state of the art . A bigger longer plenum where the maker have thought about the flows that accualy exists , but is not near as important as in an conv. engine , should do the job better than a plenum where the chamber is cross the flow . I think that a smaller plenum in an turbokit is like it is because it does the work well enough at a reasonable cost so the manufacturer can make at least some buck out of it . Im defenetly no expert in turbocharging at all just a interested guy ( old man ) that wants to do things the very best at the level i chuse in whatever i do Thanks for the offer but ive already bought the cams and think they will work well even if they are inj-ones , which i dont think they are . Ive also agreed to give a forummember an offer on my Kentcams thats 100% reasonable as i wrote in the beginning of the thread , just to cover my cost for the originals . Puuhh Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrxxquad Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I did a write up on the cam markings on Deans(elixer), motor and cams, webs, and all the ones I had at the time,,,somewhere. Or was it the other one...Can't remember, search is your friend. Just not enough time anymore, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp20 Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 Got my new , used , cams today . They are carb-ones . My kentcams are probably beeing sold to one of you guys for 300$ inkl shipping to cover my costs for the originals . If he by any reason should back out of the deal ill place them in the salesfloor along with my Dyna-ignition thats never been used . M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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