crash bungs

[jono49]

Which crash bungs do i fit top or bottom-(hole in the fairing job) or both?

To me it looks like the top ones cant be as effective as the bottom ones!

Any advice please!

[rockmeupto125]

Not exactly sure what you mean, but I'll tell you this.

The upper side cowl bolt enters a lug sticking out of the side of the frame spar....easily bent.

The lower side cowl bolt ties to a bracket bolted to a small extension off the oilpan....easily broken.

If you want something to help protect from the most tender of garage layovers, put shrooms on the upper fairing bolts.

If you want real frame sliders, you'll need to attach to the engine mounts, and drill holes in the fairings. I'd suggest the ones from RG Engineering, if that's your choice.

[jono49]

Not exactly sure what you mean, but I'll tell you this.

The upper side cowl bolt enters a lug sticking out of the side of the frame spar....easily bent.

The lower side cowl bolt ties to a bracket bolted to a small extension off the oilpan....easily broken.

If you want something to help protect from the most tender of garage layovers, put shrooms on the upper fairing bolts.

If you want real frame sliders, you'll need to attach to the engine mounts, and drill holes in the fairings. I'd suggest the ones from RG Engineering, if that's your choice.

Thanks for that: I think your right I didnt explain myself very well.

I have given this a lot of thought lately and the scenario I was thinking of was more of a garage layover than anything else, Yes I will probably fit shrooms to the upper fairing bolt, As the other scenario doesnt bear thinking about, but how much damage limitation is there in fitting R&G frame sliders

[rockmeupto125]

That's like asking how much damage are you going to do driving broadside into a car. You might bend the forks. The last one of us that did that died. Every incident is different.

The R&G are made with soft metal and with a "bend/break" area so that they sacrifice themselves rather than transfer the force to the motorcycle frame and engine. Its good in theory, but to see if it really works in practice, you'd have to break a lot of motorcycles. Rational argument says frame sliders will help decrease sliding damage to the plastic and some exposed metalwork, and potentially hold the bike off your leg.

Its pretty much accepted as fact that the upper mount bobbins will bend the frame lug....hell, it bends without bobbins in place. And the lower fairing mounts break when it falls over from a stop, so that ain't helping you any.

I've been looking at wrecked XX's for a long time. I think the upper bobbins help in very low or no-speed tipovers, and can only theorize that frame mounted sliders can help....at least in keeping the weight of the bike partially off your leg or precious bits in the event you end up sliding down the roadway.

[jono49]

That's like asking how much damage are you going to do driving broadside into a car. You might bend the forks. The last one of us that did that died. Every incident is different.

The R&G are made with soft metal and with a "bend/break" area so that they sacrifice themselves rather than transfer the force to the motorcycle frame and engine. Its good in theory, but to see if it really works in practice, you'd have to break a lot of motorcycles. Rational argument says frame sliders will help decrease sliding damage to the plastic and some exposed metalwork, and potentially hold the bike off your leg.

Its pretty much accepted as fact that the upper mount bobbins will bend the frame lug....hell, it bends without bobbins in place. And the lower fairing mounts break when it falls over from a stop, so that ain't helping you any.

I've been looking at wrecked XX's for a long time. I think the upper bobbins help in very low or no-speed tipovers, and can only theorize that frame mounted sliders can help....at least in keeping the weight of the bike partially off your leg or precious bits in the event you end up sliding down the roadway.

"Well" looks like we are fitting R&G sliders! I asked the question as this is my first faired bike all others were nakeds, The last one having engine crash bars

And it being the only bike i have ever dropped (STATIONARY) Slipped out of my hands while trying to put it on the centre stand after a polishing session it come out of it fairly well, scratched bar end, brake lever, mirror,and exhaust.

I know sliders cant offer the protection crash bars do and the bird has a bigger contact area due to the fairing panel and narrow bars etc,

But if thats the the best damage limitation money can buy it will do for me...Thanks again for the advice!