arcticflipper Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Looking to upgrade the fork springs. Now I know there has been a lot of coverage on this topic, but I still don't know which to get. I've now spoken and read up about a lot of different types and makes, and received so much conflicting info that I decided that you guys must know the best. Afterall, I'm sure the guys and gals on here have tested and used the majority of available products on the market so far. So Please help. So now after reading and getting every ones replies to this, I've gone against everything that came up here! I know ---------- Ordered Wilbers Progressive Springs 2 day, only USD123.00 and USD48.00 for shipping. Had a look at the flow charts of both the Wilbers and Hyper Pro springs, and I have to say I can't see a difference, besides the name on the packaging. I wonder if Wilbers isn't supplied by HyperPro? Well will get these in about 10 days... Can't wait to see the difference in handeling. Will also drop the fron with 1" as suggested by HyperPro, with 5W Putoline Fully Synthetic Fork Oil. Now if I could only learn to actually ride the Bird, that'll really help... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZDave Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I used Eibach 1Kg springs with 37mm sag. Also have Suspension Tech rebound and compression valves with a custom shim stack, and 2.5 weight oil. It was worth the trouble to have it done but the labour (and expertise) was a little pricey. I'd do it myself next time. Difference is very noticable. A lot of the roads are the quality of goat tracks down here. I also have the 5mm longer Wilbers shock on the back from the group buy. The suspension mods are the best money I have spent on any bike. The bike is much better on heavy braking, cornering (with Pilot Powers ) and rough roads, but it is still plush on longer trips. Get the front done, It's worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZDave Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 By the way, the springs make the most difference. The valves help but lighter oil is cheaper alternative that is nearly as effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K9XX Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Race Tech 1.1 springs + Gold Valves + 2.5W oil + 6MM shimmed rear = Night and day difference in handling 8) Cheap, IMO, and I did it myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXTi Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I'm running Ohlins 1.05's from Jaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helvet Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Hyperpro. It's the only fully progressive spring, giving you comfort when touring, and better rideability when speeding....... We did a group buy in Holland after testing a few set-ups of several Blackbirds with different shock/spring manufacturers. Over 30 riders did a testrun on several bikes. Everybody who did testruns bought the Hyperpro! They were that much better..... Only the guys who never tried Hyperpro bought Öhlins, Technoflex or WP. The other brands you never see here in Holland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar10dah Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 RaceTech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 What about Progressive??? They make fork springs for just about everything out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Race Tech 1.1 springs Where did you find 1.1 springs? The Race Tech website only shows as high as 1.0, and, uh, ahem, I would be best-suited to the 1.1s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXTi Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 BTW, the springs from Jaws are about 100mm longer than the stockers with correspondingly shorter spacers. I thought I had the wrong springs at first, but John confirmed that they were Ohlins and designed by a 'Bird owner in Europe who is involved with a racing suspension company. This guy rides a 'Bird of his own and uses this set-up with 10 wt. fork oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K9XX Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Race Tech 1.1 springs Where did you find 1.1 springs? The Race Tech website only shows as high as 1.0, and, uh, ahem, I would be best-suited to the 1.1s. http://www.casporttouring.com/store/mercha...ry_Code=rcetech I called them and they have a lot more applications than listed on line........ Got my springs and valves from dem :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redxxrdr Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Googled for Hyperpro and found a American website. Only listed through 99 xx. Are there differences? I have asked for tech support, but it is a holiday. Do they make different sizes for us ++ riders? Edit, just released this question, and my mail updated. Doug Cameron the hyperpro distributor left this phone number. 888-963-1212 Says he rides a XX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 http://www.hyperprousa.com is the USA site, I am going to be getting the springs from them myself, and possible a rear shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbrdrydr Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Have had Hyperpro springs in my 2001 for 17,000 miles and am still pleased. I use 5W fork oil rather than the recommended 2.5W because the ride is better for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warchild Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 I have the HyperPros in my FJR... seem to be pretty good springs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcticflipper Posted November 27, 2005 Author Share Posted November 27, 2005 http://www.hyperprousa.com is the USA site, I am going to be getting the springs from them myself, and possible a rear shock. Helvet is becoming a dealer in January, you might want to hold out till then. Sure he might have a better deal for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 Helvet is becoming a dealer in January, Wow. What a shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helvet Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 Helvet is becoming a dealer in January, Wow. What a shock. Hey, I take offence to that remark! I was a fan of Hyperpro long before I had the idea to start my own shop and include them...... I've already sold over 60 sets to BB-riders without being a dealer, and without making any money with it..... So why not try and make a living with my hobby? The big business for me will still be my regular job (Sales Accountant for Safety-gear), and it will be supplemented by selling my tires in Holland..... (Michelin, Bridgestone, Pirelli, Dunlop and Metzeler). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonW Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 Helvet is becoming a dealer in January, Wow. What a shock. ROTFL! Reminds me of Alphabird and Dan Kyle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcticflipper Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 OK :?: :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I just checked out Hyperpro's USA site. Do they only sell one weight of fork springs? I am 280 lbs. $175 delivered for fork springs, is there anywhere selling Hyperpro for less? I'll be doing my steeringhead bearings and fork oil (for the first time :oops: ) over the winter and might as well drop in some good fork springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcticflipper Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 So now it's becoming more confusing.... Received a couple of emails back from various people in the racing industry, and manufacturers worldwide.... The majority of replies that came back was not to use any progressive spring on a XX, but rather use 10% stiffer springs with an air gap of 125mm and 10W oil. I suppose this forum can't all be wrong now can they.... So now why have I not yet seen anyone mentioning much about the wilbers setup? Cost for Wilbers Progressive springs are USD 123.00 excluding shipping and handeling. Requested a flow chart from both Wilbers and Hyper Pro, and after looking at this I'm wondering if it's not the same spring, with a different name on the box.... Same digits right through to the top on the paper.... hmmmmm..... Maybe I'll go for the Wilbers, they are cheaper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXTi Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 BTW, the springs from Jaws are about 100mm longer than the stockers with correspondingly shorter spacers.I thought I had the wrong springs at first, but John confirmed that they were Ohlins and designed by a 'Bird owner in Europe who is involved with a racing suspension company. This guy rides a 'Bird of his own and uses this set-up with 10 wt. fork oil. That's the info I got from Jaws. I also mentioned earlier that my springs are 1.05 kg/mm. I weigh about 245# with gear and they work well for me. Richard Cranium rode my bike a couple of weeks ago. Ask him how he liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar10dah Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Helvet is becoming a dealer in January, Wow. What a shock. Are we going to have to wait until spring to place an order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I was hoping Helvet would answer my questions about hyperpro but he hasn't chimmed in yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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