Fonzie Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Still trying to get used to hydraulic clutch. I can't get it to upshift other than 2nd & 3rd gears, no matter how hard I pull the shifter. Seems to downshift OK w/o clutch. I'm assuming it's supposed to shift all 6 gears without clutch, right?? One of the service dept's told me I need to be careful 'cause I can really screw up my tranny if I'm not doing it right......something about I need to be in certain rpm range. Why would it be any different than if I was using the clutch? Can't I shift at the same points I normally would? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Something wrong with your left hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonox Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 sounds like msf time again. mind you, given the post, if there is nothing wrong with the left hand, there certainly is with the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demon Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 As in any bike trans, you probably can't shift with any power on the trans gears. You must let off the gas and relieve the stress on the gears for a split second. Works from first through sixth for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 As in any bike trans, you probably can't shift with any power on the trans gears. You must let off the gas and relieve the stress on the gears for a split second. Works from first through sixth for me. Goin' ridin' in a little bit with a buddy. I don't think I kept the power on it before, but I try again today & pay closer attention. Let you know what I notice....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie Posted August 20, 2005 Author Share Posted August 20, 2005 OK........repeatedly tried coming off the throttle and shifting without the clutch. Would downshift, but not up?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 When you want to upshift, preload the shift lever, as in push up on it with your toe- you're not trying to shift, just push up hard enough to take the slack out- don't continue pushing when you meet firm resistance. Once the shift lever is preloaded and wanting to go up, drop off the throttle briefly and it should click right up nice and smooth. First to second on the XX is a little rough doing this, the rest of the gears should go like butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Why is he wanting to do this? Do we know? What's wrong with the clutch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie Posted August 20, 2005 Author Share Posted August 20, 2005 Why is he wanting to do this? Do we know? What's wrong with the clutch? I thought that was one of the benefits of having a hydraulic clutch.....for racing & stuff......so you don't have to granny shift?? That's what someone told me anyways. And Mikey.......You can talk to ME.......I'm right here :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbird Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 This works the same with hydraulic or cable clutches, it's called clutchless shifting if you want to get picky, not "hydraulic shifting". "....for racing and stuff..." LOL, yeah, that's it :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie Posted August 20, 2005 Author Share Posted August 20, 2005 "....for racing and stuff..."LOL, yeah, that's it :wink: OK........so I'm gathering from everyone's shock & dismay at my asking this question, that's there's no valid reason to do this?? Some people acted like it was a big deal when they saw the bike had a hydraulic clutch.......impressed or something...I dunno?? My old bike was an '82 Yamaha. This is a whole new game for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demon Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 If you look at most race bikes, they have cable clutches. Hydraulic clutches lack the "feel" of normal cable clutches. The main reason for using a hydraulic clutch is for the lack of rider adjustment. A cable clutch has to be adjusted to account for wear of the plates. The hydraulic clutch takes up this slack with no need for adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_40 Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 If you look at most race bikes, they have cable clutches. Hydraulic clutches lack the "feel" of normal cable clutches. The main reason for using a hydraulic clutch is for the lack of rider adjustment. A cable clutch has to be adjusted to account for wear of the plates. The hydraulic clutch takes up this slack with no need for adjustment. +1 And generally they are easier to pull/hold not as good for racing but much better for general riding or Long distances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 And generally they are easier to pull/hold not as good for racing but much better for general riding or Long distances. Not good for drag racing but seems to be good enough for Nicky Haden. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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