titoportugal Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hi u all After a long search for a good cruise control system, I found out the Audiovox CCS-100 Cruise Control. I reed some report of successful installations on various types of bikes and i decide to take the shot and buy it. I bought it at Summit Racing http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?...udiovox&x=0&y=0 I receive it for Xmas (it was the Xmas present I gave to my BB) and since then i didn't had time yet to mount it. It doesn't seem very difficult. I found on Internet an article of how to instal it on a FJR http://www.fjr1300.info/howto/audiovox.html I searched here at the forum and didn't find anything regarding this, so I was wondering if any you guys have ever seen anything like it or if you have it installed in your bikes.... Any way I'm planning on doing it this weekend. I will take some pics to show to you. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 BigJeff is your guy. He adapted his own system a couple of years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helvet Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Please let us know (preferrably with pictures) how you did it, and what the results are.... It looks quite good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Yes, please, if you have a digital camera, try to document the steps and we'll stick it in our library! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furbird Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Actually, I believe he got the fully electric one. That one you listed is vaccuum controlled, and I don't believe a bike pulls enough vaccuum to run the cruise control, which is why he went full electric. I installed cruises for 2 years, and I have to agree with him on the decision to go electric. It costs 2 or 3 times as much, but is a much better and more stable cruise control with less install time and more resistant to weather. Not to mention there are no mechanical parts to fail other than the motor to pull the cable back and forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titoportugal Posted January 5, 2005 Author Share Posted January 5, 2005 Hi I hope BigJeff came out with some post regarding this issue. About the vacuum, I bought separately a vacuum canister to store the vacuum, which I can collect from the throttle body. They say that the least that is needed is "6 inches of mercury vacuum". Since I dont know this measure, I search for a converter to psi and i didn't find any (if any of you guys can give me a hand i would appreciate). I believe if I collect the vacuum out of 3 cylinders I would have enough. I will surely take some pics. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrated Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Tito, 6" of mercury vacuum is equal to . -2.9469 PSI Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titoportugal Posted January 5, 2005 Author Share Posted January 5, 2005 Tito, 6" of mercury vacuum is equal to . -2.9469 PSIHope this helps. Thanks ... grate help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jeff Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 I Installed the vacuum one. The Audiovox. The hardest part is stripping the bike down. It works great. Surges a little bit on occasion, mostly slower speeds. I put the unit in the tail, and the vacuum can along the side by the centerstand grab handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titoportugal Posted January 11, 2005 Author Share Posted January 11, 2005 Big Jeff you dont happen to have any pics of it no .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jeff Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I used to but I can't find em for the life of me. Some of the sites I've seen on it have better pictures than I had. Here is the site I used: http://www.angelfire.com/il/sproulpage/page13.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titoportugal Posted February 4, 2005 Author Share Posted February 4, 2005 Hi you all I'm having a hard time trying to install this gadget. 1st Problem - Vacuum Canister 1st problem was to fit the vacuum canister that Summit Racing sold me on the XX...there was no place...the only place I found was the on top of the CDI near the rear stop light...any way the canister was to big. So I decided to make one of my own in PVC. I bought everything that was needed, i assembled the parts, drilled the holes for the valves, glued it with silicon glue, left it to dry for 1 and 1/2 day and after all this... in the final test it didn't pass. I pump vacuum in it, put it under water and it made some bobbles - so it wasn't able to keep the vacuum inside. After this i decided to make a canister out of aluminium. I went to a friend of mine who makes home made exhausts, and made a small exhaust can proper to fit in the tail of the XX. It passed the test and it can contain the vacuum. I got the vacuum out of 2 cylinders by using the holes covered by 4 screws in the throttle body, used to synchronise it. Electrical Part This was the most easy part. Connecting the wires was very simple. Nevertheless i have some doubts, that I would appreciate Big Jeff or any other person that had this job done, to clarify to me or tell me how you did it: - I got the speed signal directly from the speed sensor, and didn’t use the Magnetic Kit provided by then. Is this considered VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor)??? - Tach Source - I got it directly from the CDI wire but its also possible to get it from the coil 2nd Problem - Making it work After connecting all the wires and programming the Servo Assembly as I think it is correct (at least according to the manual) the problem is putting the Cruise Control to Work. I triple checked the wire connections, tried every possible and reasonable programming of the servo assembly, tested with more vacuum … and it still doesn't engage. But the funny thing is that it disengages when I press the brake or clutch. Really, I don’t know what else to do. Now after work I'm going to try to use the magnetic kit for speed sensing and this is my last hope. Big Jeff, or any of you guys, how managed to pull out this job? Do you still remember the programing of the servo? Any ideas???? I really need then Regards P.S. As soon as i have the job done I will post pics of every steep with a detailed description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jeff Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Here's an idea. Did you get a one way valve for the vacuum can ? Also, I wired mine straight to one of the coils. I had the wires crossed originally then I switched them around and it worked fine. I kinda doubt you messed up the servo dip switches. they're pretty simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jeff Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Read this "how to" it really helped me http://www.angelfire.com/il/sproulpage/page13.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titoportugal Posted February 4, 2005 Author Share Posted February 4, 2005 Here's an idea.Did you get a one way valve for the vacuum can ? Also, I wired mine straight to one of the coils. I had the wires crossed originally then I switched them around and it worked fine. I kinda doubt you messed up the servo dip switches. they're pretty simple. Hi Big Jeff I used the valve supplied with the kit. Regarding the coils im going to try it now. Do you remember your programing? Were did you got the speed from ? Thanks in avance for your help Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Here's a guy that put one on an FJR. Obviously a different bike but the concept is the same http://www.micapeak.com/bike/FJR1300/howto...o/audiovox.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titoportugal Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 Unfortunately I had to temporarily give up the installation of the cruise control. I had my bike already fixed from my crash (http://cbr.geckobox.net/forum/viewtopic.ph...7689&highlight=) and I was just taking advantage of the fact the bike was all naked to try to install the cruise control. After 3 weeks of testing and trying every possible way of putting it to work without success, I finally decided to take everything of, dress my bird, and do testing on other bike. Also I was tired of riding my Vstar, witch is a good bike for calm weekends rides, but not for "every day going to work and ride 100 km of high way". Now I will try to put it together once again in a friend of mine's bike and crack my head till it works. As soon as I get it done I will install it on the bird and take detailed pictures of every step. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sykotek-xx Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Hey Jeff, hope you're still around. Just installed this cruise on my bike. I do not have a vacuum accumulator yet. But as it is right now, it does not seem to be engaging at all. Two questions: Where did you tap for vacuum? Which wire on the coil pack did you tap for the blue wire? One is black with a white stripe, the other is a different color on each coil, so I am thinking the black one is the negative. Help! Thanks! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jeff Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Get the vacuum off the base of the carbs. there should be 1/4 black hose coming off each one. find a spot where they come together for the most vacuum possible. sounds like you figured out the coils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sykotek-xx Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Yeah got the coil going. And I have FI but I have the same plumbing, a hose from each TB that all some together before the MAP. Test drove it, got to 60 and hit set. Stayed at 60. Not 59, not 61, 60mph. Perfect, and don't need the canister either. Thanks for the reply! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jeff Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 So you have no vacuum can ? interesting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sykotek-xx Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Yes, no vacuum can. So far so good. I'll have a better idea when I take the bike to work. But on my little test drive last night with half the bike still on a shelf in the garage it worked perfect. I'm going down now to put the rest of the bike back together and get the final pictures. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rockmeupto125 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Theoretically you'll do okay without the can. Where you are requiring large throttle openings to maintain speed, your vacuum will drop, and then you'll need the reservoir. If you just use the cruise on the highway, you might do okay, especially here in the east where there's a lot less sustained gradient (hills). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sykotek-xx Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Hey, I thought you rode an XX? When was the last time you needed a large amount of throttle to do anything on the XX? If all is quiet tonight at work as I suspect it will be, there will be an illustrated tutorial on the cruise posted here by 8:00am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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