R1dR3d Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Can any one let me know where I can get a dog bone to convert over to a 954 shock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demon Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 You might be able to run an adjustable dogbone like I have. I've considered this mod as it makes sense to me. I haven't been able to get a hold of a 954/929 rear shock to measure it's length or install and check how long the dogbone needs to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1dR3d Posted September 16, 2004 Author Share Posted September 16, 2004 even if this is the 300 dollar dog bone, the shocks only cost like 50 dollars or so I'll see if I can get the lenght of that shock from an ebay seller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demon Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 My dogbone cost me $129 from Schnitz racing. It's got a stainless threaded rod and the lower mount slides up and down this shaft. The lower mount is held in place by a locknut on each side. It's built pretty sturdy as the locknuts take a 15/16 inch wrench to adjust the lower mount. You have to press out the bearings out of your stock dogbone and install them into the adjustable link or buy new ones, unlike a lot of the aftermarket dogbones that use brass incerts instead of bearings. I'll take some measurements off of it and tell you the adjustability of it as far as length goes. You can adjust it shorter or longer than the stock dogbone. I use it for lowering my bird for dragracing and in 15 minutes I can have it at stock height or higher for better handling. Beats the hell out of the shock washers to raise it up. It's better than the 3 hole lowering links IMHO because you aren't set at any specific height. You can put it exactly where you want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demon Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Another option you might consider is to make yourself some new plates for the suspension linkage. You know, the triangle pieces that the shock, swingarm, and dogbone bolt to. It would do the same thing as a different dogbone and probably easier and cheaper. You could put the bike up on the centerstand with something a 1/2" thick under the tire and measure up the distance between the stock dogbone mounting hole and where the dogbone actually is. You then make new side plates out of some 1/4" stainless keeping the distance the same with the 2 bolts that are still bolted up with the dogbone mount in a different location. This would be the same as a different length dogbone, but keep your stock bone. Might be an option and you wouldn't have to shim your shock 6mm either, being as the extra height is in the plate, not the shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1dR3d Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 sounds like a good plan, I'd have to buy the 'new' shock first then take the bike to a shop that will fabricate the part. I'll check on the cost of that work, can't be much over 50 dollars I'm guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie_xx Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Here is the shock.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...2489520669&rd=1 Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodeRash Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 sounds like a good plan, I'd have to buy the 'new' shock first then take the bike to a shop that will fabricate the part. Â I'll check on the cost of that work, can't be much over 50 dollars I'm guessing. Have you ever priced machine work? This would be a "one time only" job, and you would be charged for all the development and setup time. Also, Changing the spacing of these mounting holes may also change the basic ratios between shock and wheel travel. This may seriously affect the spring rates needed for your bike. Unless you are prepared to do all the math necessary to recalculate the ratios, you will be forced to try different spring combinations in order to get your bike to work properly. The proper length aftermarket shock with the correct spring rate may turn out to be a bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1dR3d Posted September 21, 2004 Author Share Posted September 21, 2004 Though I can get a deal on the fabrication, it wont be free. It's the effect on the geometry I'm going to need to avoid. Looks like I'll go penske sport... then I can upgrade if I ever feel the need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXTi Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Good choice! I'll bet you love the Penske. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodeRash Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 A lot of Suzuki TL-R and TL-S owners have been buying Bitubo shocks. You can get the same adjustment options on those as on Penske or Ohlins. The price is pretty reasonable. So far, I have not heard of any complaints. Just a thought. I bought a Penske for my BlackBird, but am considering the Bitubo for my TL. The stock rotary shock that comes on the TL may actually be worse than the stock shock on the BlackBird. (but at least it is adjustable) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1dR3d Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 Where ( on line ) can I take a look at te Biturbo shock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodeRash Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 How about the obvious? http://www.bitubo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBXX Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Is the 954 shock a shorter stroke then the stock stock ? If so how come it doesn't bottom out on the bird . Could someone please explain .. Thank s Herb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1dR3d Posted September 25, 2004 Author Share Posted September 25, 2004 How about the obvious? http://www.bitubo.com that web site sorta sux... or did i just miss the what we have that fits your bike and how much it costs section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demon Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 I looked all over the bitubo site and couldn't find anything for the XX. A lot of stuff for obscure bikes, but no bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodeRash Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 Here is the US dealer. U.S.A. HERDAN CORPORATION Route 61 Port Clinton, PA 19549 Ph 001-610-562-3155 Fax 001-610-562-5481 Contact Person: Mr. Herman Baver The HERDAN web site sucks too. It may be worthwhile to give them a call and see if they can get a shock for the Bird. The Suzuki guys at www.tlplanet.com have put together group buys in the past. (Those guys group buy everything) Replacements for the TL rotary shock are pretty hard to come by. I think the last group buy for Bitubo was through some parts dealer in San Diego. FWIW, I'm not trying to drum up business for these guys. The Bitubo shocks are quite a bit less $$ than Penske or Ohlins, and the Suzuki guys have had no complaints that I am aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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