Chicken

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I've wondered if people could survive without chicken. Interesting history.

 

 

https://southfloridareporter.com/americans-consume-8-billion-chickens-a-year-or-21917808-per-day-thats-over-80-pounds-each-a-year/

[SwampNut]

Recent conversation:

 

 

 

 

The amount of disease and overall fuckery that we're creating with factory farming birds is absolutely retarded.  This is where our species-threatening viruses come from.

 

 

 

[DaveK]

I get mine from the local farm.  Zero fuckery there.  Huge difference. 

[blackhawkxx]

Either chicken or turkey every day but never fried.  Enjoyed the fun facts in the link. 

 

• The greatest height a chicken egg has been dropped from without cracking is 700ft.
• Alektorophobia is the fear of chickens.
• On worldwide average, 96 chickens are killed every 0.05 seconds. – Source
• Before the Beijing Olympics, Usain Bolt ate 100 Chicken McNuggets a day for 10 days and eventually won 3 gold medals. – Source
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[superhawk996]

 

 

On 8/9/2024 at 7:35 AM, SwampNut said:

The amount of disease and overall fuckery that we're creating with factory farming birds is absolutely retarded.

I'm guessing that every 'normally sourced' food product is full of fuckery.  Farming of plants is full of fuckery, and it's part of the reason Salton Sea has become such a threat.

[SwampNut]

So far, the fuckery on plants has produced a few less pandemics.

 

[02XXCA]

4 hours ago, SwampNut said:

So far, the fuckery on plants has produced a few less pandemics.

 

I'm not sure about the safety of plants in the US when farmers are allowwed to use sewer sludge;  https://www.hydroviv.com/blogs/water-smarts/toxic-wastewater-biosolids-used-to-fertilize-us-farms?srsltid=AfmBOopc6VoZkxdfJpzva0KgTNgs_ZFk83PL1GP33K74jL6oxsNq6jVM

 

 

 

EPA has documented that over 19 billion pounds of biosolid sludge has been used as fertilizer since 2016 in 41 states. The agency estimates that 60% of the nation's sludge is used to fertilize agricultural land, public parks, golf courses, and home gardens. Agricultural use of municipal biosolids has been around since the 1920’s - however environmental regulations didn’t kick in until 1993. There’s a strong case to be made that biosolids can be a cheap and effective way to fertilize crops - not to mention that farmers are able to reuse a naturally-occurring material to grow crops. Biosolids can also result in an increase in overall crop yield because of the addition of organic matter to soil. There’s a good chance that some of the food sitting in your refrigerator was grown using sewage biosolids. 

 

Toxic Chemicals Are Present in Wastewater Sludge 

PFAS or ‘forever chemicals’ are being detected everywhere - including in biosolids. Treatment plants aren’t required to test for or remove PFAS chemicals, so most of the time no one knows if they’re present. PFAS are found in industrial waste, drinking water, runoff from airports and military bases, as well as consumer goods. When these different types of waste are brought to a single area (i.e. a wastewater treatment plant), PFAS concentrations become alarmingly high. Because of the lack of testing and regulatory oversight, farmers are unknowingly re-distributing PFAS-containing toxic sludge into the environment while simultaneously contaminating their crops.

The EPA has detected 700 pollutants in sewage biosolids since testing began in 1993. In addition, the EPA has compiled of a list of 726 chemicals found in biosolids published in the National Sewage Sludge Surveys. However, the more than 9,000 different PFAS chemicals are not included in this list. Just because a pollutant is present does not mean that a wastewater treatment plant is required to remove it. Furthermore, EPA claims that “the presence of a pollutant in biosolids alone does not mean that the biosolids pose harm to human health and the environment.” 

 

PFAS Levels at Organic Maine Farm Are 400 Times Higher Than State Guidelines

Farmers in Unity, Maine were some of the first to uncover PFAS pollution from biosolids on their land. A nearby town was home to a “molded fiber packaging” manufacturer in the 1990’s, which processed PFAS chemicals. The previous owners of the farm applied sewage biosolids to their land around the time that fiber manufacturing was in full swing. The current owners had no idea until they found a map of known sewage applications which revealed that their land had been contaminated. Testing found that PFAS levels in the farm's well water were 400 times higher than Maine’s state guidelines. 

Similar stories are being told across the entire country - disrupting businesses, supply chains and public health; a Michigan cattle farmer was recently shut down after state officials detected PFAS in his water. The source was later traced back to fertilizer biosolids from a chrome-plate manufacturer in the area; Dairy farmers in both Maine and Wisconsin have dumped thousands of gallons of milk because of PFAS pollution in their cows; and companies in Ohio, the state with the most robust recordkeeping of biosolid use, have persistently violated EPA’s biosolid regulations. 

Major Takeaways:

It’s now estimated that 20 million acres of U.S. cropland are contaminated with PFAS chemicals. EPA has yet to start navigating the culpability of PFAS producers, wastewater treatment plants, or municipalities in a meaningful way. We can expect to see “biosolids” to dominate headlines in coming months, but we could be decades away from meaningful action to protect public health. Our Water Nerds will continue to ask the question: who should be held accountable?

[SwampNut]

I'm not arguing that it's not full of shit, literally.  I'm stating however that what has actually happened, the results, are one thing.  Nothing I said contradicted Oscar's statement; nothing you said contradicts mine.  

 

You might like Dr. Gregor's talks on factory farming and pandemics (or hate it and see we are doomed).

 

[jon haney]

I think this thread needs to be renamed to "Chicken Little".

[SwampNut]

A person in Missouri with no known animal contact has tested positive for H5 bird flu, the state’s department of health and senior services said Friday. It’s the first time a patient in the US outbreak has had no known exposure to sick animals. And it is the first time someone has been hospitalized with bird flu

 

Bird flu has a 52% death rate in humans.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/06/missouri-bird-flu-positive-hospitalized

[02XXCA]

11 minutes ago, SwampNut said:

A person in Missouri with no known animal contact has tested positive for H5 bird flu, the state’s department of health and senior services said Friday. It’s the first time a patient in the US outbreak has had no known exposure to sick animals. And it is the first time someone has been hospitalized with bird flu

 

Bird flu has a 52% death rate in humans.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/06/missouri-bird-flu-positive-hospitalized

That is not good.

[SwampNut]

12 minutes ago, 02XXCA said:

That is not good.

 

Chicken Little.

 

 

[blackhawkxx]

It's those government birds spreading this. 

[jon haney]

On 9/8/2024 at 5:15 AM, blackhawkxx said:

It's those government birds spreading this. 

I was going to ask if the Missouri guy works for the government.  Gotta test it on somebody.

 

As I read Carlos' post, my first thought was, "I think chicken is about to get less expensive."