Are eggs terrible for you or critical to overall nutrition?

[jon haney]

On 6/13/2025 at 10:42 AM, SwampNut said:

 

Have far less disease I suppose.

 

Like bird flu?

[jon haney]

On 6/15/2025 at 9:27 AM, tomek said:

Classic Zero. No need to elaborate. 

He's just asking questions.  Do you really want him to provide the, um answers, as well?

 

 

 

 

 

Didn't think so.

[SwampNut]

2 hours ago, jon haney said:

Like bird flu?

 

And a bunch of others along with vastly increased mutation rates.

 

[CALCXX]

Good info. Thanks

I often wondered about this ---

 

Eggs and Diabetes

Eating just a single egg a week appeared to increase the odds of diabetes by 76 percent. Two eggs a week appeared to double the odds, and just a single egg a day tripled the odds. Once we then have diabetes, eggs may hasten our death. Eating one egg or more a day appears to shorten anyone’s lifespan, but it may double the all-cause mortality for those with diabetes.

[SwampNut]

17 minutes ago, CALCXX said:

Good info. Thanks

I often wondered about this ---

 

 

Eggs and Diabetes

Eating just a single egg a week appeared to increase the odds of diabetes by 76 percent. Two eggs a week appeared to double the odds, and just a single egg a day tripled the odds. Once we then have diabetes, eggs may hasten our death. Eating one egg or more a day appears to shorten anyone’s lifespan, but it may double the all-cause mortality for those with diabetes.

 

Yeah, same.  I think I'm just giving up the occasional egg treat altogether.

 

[CALCXX]

Sad. I like eggs. Can do alot with a boiled egg.

If you let them go weeks beyond stale date, there are other uses for them.

 

edit to add: they really explode if you shoot 17hmr.

 

 

Edited June 20, 2025 by CALCXX

[jon haney]

1 hour ago, CALCXX said:

Good info. Thanks

I often wondered about this ---

 

 

Eggs and Diabetes

Eating just a single egg a week appeared to increase the odds of diabetes by 76 percent. Two eggs a week appeared to double the odds, and just a single egg a day tripled the odds. Once we then have diabetes, eggs may hasten our death. Eating one egg or more a day appears to shorten anyone’s lifespan, but it may double the all-cause mortality for those with diabetes.

Where did you hear this?  Can you provide a source?  I only want to know, so I know which source to ignore as total BS.

[SwampNut]

33 minutes ago, jon haney said:

Where did you hear this?  Can you provide a source?  I only want to know, so I know which source to ignore as total BS.

 

Well, apparently this is wasted effort since you already know everything, but why not...

 

There are dozens more, these are the top ones.

 

 

Wang Y, Li M, Shi Z. Higher egg consumption associated with increased risk of diabetes in Chinese adults – China Health and Nutrition Survey. Br J Nutr. Published online October 8, 2020. doi: 10.1017/S0007114520003955.

Shi Z, Yuan B, Zhang C, Zhou M, Holmboe-Ottesen G. Egg consumption and the risk of diabetes in adults, Jiangsu, China. Nutrition. 2011;27(2):194-198. doi:10.1016/j.nut.2010.01.012.

Djoussé L, Gaziano JM. Egg Consumption and Risk of Heart Failure in the Physicians' Health Study. Circulation. 2008;117(4):512-516. doi:10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.107.734210.

Djoussé L, Khawaja OA, Gaziano JM. Egg consumption and risk of type 2 diabetes: a meta-analysis of prospective studies. Am J Clin Nutr. 2016;103(2):474-480. doi: 10.3945/ajcn.115.119933.

Djoussé L, Gaziano J, Buring JE, Lee IM. Egg consumption and risk of type 2 diabetes in men and women. Diabetes Care. 2009;32(2):295-300. doi: 10.2337/dc08-1271.

[jon haney]

58 minutes ago, SwampNut said:

 

Well, apparently this is wasted effort since you already know everything, but why not...

 

There are dozens more, these are the top ones.

 

 

Wang Y, Li M, Shi Z. Higher egg consumption associated with increased risk of diabetes in Chinese adults – China Health and Nutrition Survey. Br J Nutr. Published online October 8, 2020. doi: 10.1017/S0007114520003955.

Shi Z, Yuan B, Zhang C, Zhou M, Holmboe-Ottesen G. Egg consumption and the risk of diabetes in adults, Jiangsu, China. Nutrition. 2011;27(2):194-198. doi:10.1016/j.nut.2010.01.012.

Djoussé L, Gaziano JM. Egg Consumption and Risk of Heart Failure in the Physicians' Health Study. Circulation. 2008;117(4):512-516. doi:10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.107.734210.

Djoussé L, Khawaja OA, Gaziano JM. Egg consumption and risk of type 2 diabetes: a meta-analysis of prospective studies. Am J Clin Nutr. 2016;103(2):474-480. doi: 10.3945/ajcn.115.119933.

Djoussé L, Gaziano J, Buring JE, Lee IM. Egg consumption and risk of type 2 diabetes in men and women. Diabetes Care. 2009;32(2):295-300. doi: 10.2337/dc08-1271.

If there are dozens more, why not start with the American sources?  (rhetorical)

You can find "studies" on how just about anything in the universe will kill or cure.  Given how long chickens have been walking the planet, and humans have been eating their babies, with rampant diabetes being relatively new, I think you can understand my skepticism.  Perhaps the real problem is something more modern?  Plus, results rarely apply to everyone.  However, everyone does have an agenda.  Even scientists and doctors.

You can show me a thousand motorcycle crashes, and I will still ride. (mic drop)

Edited June 20, 2025 by jon haney

[SwampNut]

1 minute ago, jon haney said:

(mic drop)

 

Sad.

 

[jon haney]

3 minutes ago, SwampNut said:

 

Sad.

 

You're sad that I made a clever motorcycle analogy?

[SwampNut]

No, that you can't see past your foregone prejudices to rationally consider a cost/benefit or risk/reward ratio when it comes to everything.  My risk/reward on riding is an extremely good ratio and obviously you know that not only do I ride, I put a lot of effort in meeting up with you assholes to do more of it.  As it is for whisky.  My risk/reward for eggs is low, and for many other things I simply stopped having in my life.  The cost of certain foods is joint pain and other issues, with only a small reward, so they are gone.  There's no mic drop.  There's just a scale that takes some thought and being open to new data.

 

[blackhawkxx]

6 hours ago, jon haney said:

Given how long chickens have been walking the planet, and humans have been eating their babies, with rampant diabetes being relatively new, I think you can understand my skepticism.  Perhaps the real problem is something more modern?  Plus, results rarely apply to everyone.  However, everyone does have an agenda.  Even scientists and doctors.

+ 1

 

I have eaten a LOT of eggs my whole life (sometimes 3 or 4 a day) and the last I checked, I was still alive and no sugar issues.  While I have backed off eating so many only because of the possible cholesterol connection, there is no way I fully believe this below without something else being involved.

 

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Eating just a single egg a week appeared to increase the odds of diabetes by 76 percent. Two eggs a week appeared to double the odds, and just a single egg a day tripled the odds. 

 

[SwampNut]

Yeah, it's almost like today we have to make new decisions base on new data based on new input.  Fucking crazy right? 

[CALCXX]

On 6/20/2025 at 11:50 AM, SwampNut said:

 I put a lot of effort in meeting up with you assholes to do more of it. 

 

 

 

Thats the best part of it all even if I know it's not good for me.

It's the risk. The reason I do the shit I do. Everything. Life is not boring. 

 

edit: and never will be.🤪😀😀

Edited June 22, 2025 by CALCXX

[jon haney]

On 6/20/2025 at 1:50 PM, SwampNut said:

No, that you can't see past your foregone prejudices to rationally consider a cost/benefit or risk/reward ratio when it comes to everything.  My risk/reward on riding is an extremely good ratio and obviously you know that not only do I ride, I put a lot of effort in meeting up with you assholes to do more of it.  As it is for whisky.  My risk/reward for eggs is low, and for many other things I simply stopped having in my life.  The cost of certain foods is joint pain and other issues, with only a small reward, so they are gone.  There's no mic drop.  There's just a scale that takes some thought and being open to new data.

 

The way I see it for this particular case, that "scale" is very heavy on the side of history, and very light on the side of speculative research where any number of substances can cause the same problems.  Scientists looking to make a name for themselves are more likely to "fudge" results/conclusions, because they face little consequences for being wrong.

 

For the record, below is the statement that pegged my BS meter.

Eating just a single egg a week appeared to increase the odds of diabetes by 76 percent. Two eggs a week appeared to double the odds, and just a single egg a day tripled the odds.

Edited June 23, 2025 by jon haney

[superhawk996]

On 6/15/2025 at 1:30 AM, Zero Knievel said:

Do these studies compare and contrast home-raised eggs to mass-produced eggs?  Could it be more about what the chickens are fed and injected with and their environment than the eggs themselves?

I've heard conflicting data and don't know the truth so I tarp and strap my free range hens to play the odds in my favor.

 

So now that that's out of the way...I think it's reasonable to assume that home eggs are healthier than those from farms.  Counterargument: farm hens are supposedly being monitored for problems that a home grower might not discover.  Most of our eggs come from my friend's yard birds, and sometimes we eat store bought, neither have killed us yet.

[SwampNut]

50 minutes ago, superhawk996 said:

Counterargument

 

Right, is it "healthier" to possibly have a better nutritional profile and no added chemicals, but you occasionally get sick and die, or to always have less nutrition and more chemicals but less deaths?