SwampNut Posted July 21 Posted July 21 I posted about this years ago, when it was 1 in 5000. It's getting worse with the processed food scourge, now, The Mineral Intake Recommendations Only 1 in 6,000 U.S. Adults Meet https://nutritionfacts.org/blog/the-mineral-intake-recommendations-only-1-in-6000-u-s-adults-meet And it’s so damn easy to fix… https://amazon.com/dp/B0183RU7VI?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback Quote
poida Posted July 22 Posted July 22 There is plenty of potassium in: chocolate and coffee,i nailed it reduced-salt packaged products meat, pork, chicken and fish fruit juices and milkshakes chocolate and coffee milk and yoghurt Quote
SwampNut Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 I'm not sure what sort of joke you're trying to make here, but I don't get it, and this could be confusing to people. Natural sources of potassium are mostly plants, such as the dark dried fruits, bananas, avocado, tomatoes, coconut, pistachios, etc. Skin on potatoes are good. Obviously, most beans. Milk, yogurt, and SOME fish are decent, not super high. On the fish, the ones with potassium are also likely high in mercury, so overall, not a reasonable source. Mammalian meats other than goat are not a good source; the amount is pretty small compared to the amount of shit you will ingest, kind of like the fish. A good sized steak has less than a medium banana. And then...do you salt the meat (with sodium salt)? Or use potassium salt instead? Fruit juices may or may not be useful, some are quite low. And now you're spiking sugar with low nutritional value all around. Smoothies and purees of some fruits may be good, but not anything really common/easy to buy. By the time you consume chocolate, it's not potassium dense. It's only dense in raw form. At a consumer level, the amount of garbage calories relative to the amount of potassium is very high. Similarly, by the time you consume coffee, it's a pretty useless amount unless you're drinking it all day. Quote
poida Posted July 22 Posted July 22 https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/foods-high-in-potassium What foods are high in potassium? Potassium is found in a wide variety of foods. It’s added as a food ingredient and found naturally in a range of plant and animal foods. There is plenty of potassium in: reduced-salt packaged products meat, pork, chicken and fish fruit juices and milkshakes chocolate and coffee milk and yoghurt Potassium is also found in: root vegetables such as potatoes and sweet potatoes vine fruits such as tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, eggplant and pumpkin dried fruits such as apricots leafy greens such as spinach tree fruits like mangoes and bananas legumes such as chickpeas, beans and peas Quote
SwampNut Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 I mean, the numbers are just numbers. You can keep repeating that, but it doesn't make it true or at least, useful, as a part of a normal diet. There's also the matter of reducing sodium. Go look at the ACTUAL numbers of what you'd get, particularly relative to the things you may not want to increase (calories, saturated fat, mercury, etc). There's no room for random opinions here, go run the numbers. IF THE ABOVE WERE TRUE or useful as part of a diet, then we wouldn't have rampant deficiency, right? Quote
tomek Posted July 22 Posted July 22 So, 99.99% is in danger of immediate death? What is all that panic in OP about? Anyway, between milk, Greek Yogurt, farmer cheese, avocado and one daily microwaved red potato I easily get minium dose without almost any sodium. Plus fruits and vegetables, etc. I won't even mention fish, poultry and occasional beef. Quote
SwampNut Posted July 22 Author Posted July 22 1 hour ago, poida said: meat, pork, chicken and fish Reminds me of another dietary fallacy... Multiple consumer nutrition surveys confirm that more than half of Americans believe steak contains dietary fiber. This misconception stems from widespread gaps in baseline nutritional literacy across the United States. [1, 2] Key Surveys and Statistics The 53% Misconception Study: National consumer nutrition polling evaluated by food analysts and health organizations reveals that 53% of Americans explicitly believe steak is a significant fiber source. Quote
poida Posted July 23 Posted July 23 not sure what part your saying is a fallacy https://www.webmd.com/diet/foods-rich-in-potassium Food Sources of Potassium Many of the foods that you already eat have potassium in them. If you need to boost the amount in your diet, you can choose healthy foods including: Bananas, oranges, cantaloupes, honeydew, apricots, grapefruit (some dried fruits, such as prunes, raisins, and dates, are also high in potassium) Cooked spinach Cooked broccoli Potatoes Sweet potatoes Mushrooms Peas Cucumbers Zucchini Pumpkins Leafy greens Juice from potassium-rich fruits is also a good choice: Orange juice Tomato juice Prune juice Apricot juice Grapefruit juice Certain dairy products, such as milk and yogurt, are good sources of potassium (consider low-fat or fat-free). Some fish contain potassium: Tuna Halibut Cod Trout Rockfish Beans and legumes that are high in potassium include: Lima beans Pinto beans Kidney beans Soybeans Lentils Other foods with potassium include: Salt substitutes (read labels to check their potassium levels) Molasses Nuts Meat and poultry Brown and wild rice Bran cereal Whole-wheat bread and pasta Quote
SwampNut Posted July 23 Author Posted July 23 11 hours ago, poida said: not sure what part your saying is a fallacy The lack of any meaningful numbers relative to actual dietary consumption. But your new quote which contradicts the earlier ones is actually pretty accurate. Got this today... https://nutritionfacts.org/blog/are-potassium-chloride-salt-substitutes-worth-trying/ In a randomized controlled trial, households had their salt replaced with just a quarter potassium chloride. At that level, most people either couldn’t tell the difference or even preferred the salt with the potassium mixed in. But did it actually do any good? The use of even the quarter salt substitute was associated with cutting the risk of developing hypertension in half. But what about actually following people out to see if there’s any change in the risk of dying from cardiovascular disease? Five kitchens in a veterans’ retirement home were randomized into two groups for about two and a half years, salting meals with regular salt or, unbeknownst to the cooks and the diners, a 50/50 blend of potassium chloride. Those in the half potassium group cut their risk of dying from cardiovascular disease by about 40% and lived up to nearly a year longer. The life expectancy difference at age 70 was “equivalent to that which would have naturally occurred in 14 [years],” meaning that just switching to half potassium salt appeared to effectively make people more than a decade younger when it came to risk of death. Quote
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