I've finally completed my blackbird project, and went to register it today. Was informed that I could not register it as CA considers any vehicle with less than 7500 miles to be NEW, and it would have to conform to current california vehicle standards. Given that it's a 1997 blackbird, that would be difficult.

So, is there a way to move the miles on a speedo FORWARD? Excepting hooking up a drill to the cable.

Or is there a better way to do this?

Fuck the DMV!

There is no mechanical cable to put a drill motor on, so that's not going to
work; the speedometer/odometer is electronic and the pick up is in the
transmission. You would have to find a way to change the number in the ECU
as far as I know, or put it on the center stand, leave it running in gear, until
you reach the mileage you want.

I agree that it's a crappy law, but a '97 bird should still be able to meet the emission standards for newer vehicles. I'd be surprised if you learn otherwise. Please let us know.

How many miles do you have to go?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1997-Honda-...sQ5fAccessories

Probably more than you would want to spend, but I'm sure there is a better deal. OR find someone willing to loan theirs out.

+1 on borrowing someones. I'd be willing to pull mine out and ship it to you if no one closer can hook you up. Mine's a 97.

I really rather not have to, since I'm fat and lazy.

Or "sell" it to someone out of state until you reach the mileage.

I have changed the odo. was not that hard, the early number wheel is held in with plastic that is melted over, hot knife and out it comes, back in and hot knife it back over the shaft.
Let me know If you want me to do it...

Only half joking: install a speedohealer, set the correction switches to show you running as fast as it will go, and ride around the block a few times (assuming you don't have to pile on too many miles). The speedohealer alters the pick up signal, adding or subtracting pulses, to normally correct the reading to both the speedo and the odometer. It would also be a photo opportunity.

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Or you could find a pulse generator, wick the output to about 150 and leave the setup running overnight. All it needs to output is a nice clean square wave.

LOL!

Thanks for all the great ideas everybody.

I have to add about 3500 miles to the speedo, so I'm going to look into the speedohealer and pulse gen route. I'm mostly upset because I just got this thing together, and now I might have to take it apart again for no good reason.

Again, thanks, I'll have a look this wknd and report back.

How many miles need to be on the odometer?

For CA, it has to have 7500+ miles if it's not a CA emission spec vehicle.

Ferris Bueller

just use center stand put in sixth gear and crack open the throttle. If you run it at 150mph you will have the 3500 in less than a day.

Post here in the WTB. I bet someone has one. Contact anyone who is parting out a bike.

Buy one and resell it. http://cgi.ebay.com/Honda-CBR1100XX-Super-...=item439fd45bc6

Mitch, I've got a few pulse generators that should do the job. I can't believe that it would take too long, most likely the odometer will still count at a rate of 1000 mph or so, might be fun to watch it tick over.

I'm pretty much free with my time, and live in Tustin. Pm me your number and I'll drop by.

Did you have to replace the odometer? Normally, you just need to document the replaced odometer reading.

MitchT,
I had this same problem when I was a new resident to CA several years back and didn't know any better. I had purchased an Aprilia on eBay from a seller in AZ and the bike only had 4K miles on it. I tried to register it here in CA and got denied. They gave me a temporary permit by mistake (new and young DMV person) until I figured the situation out and I ended up riding on that for 1 year (it had expired 3 months after I got it so I was basically riding around illegally for 9 months). The problem for you now is that the DMV has record of you trying to register your bike with under 7500 on it and regardless of what you do to get above the 7500 mile requirement, they can easily look back and see that your bike is not registerable in the state. This is what they told me when I went back to try and get my Aprilia Futura registerd with over 7500 miles. I ended up selling the bike after 1 year to a CA resident who had to get the bike registered back in AZ through a friend's address. It was quite the mess. Luckily for me, he really wanted the bike. After I sold that, I bought an 02' XX from a seller in CA.

Now I know that if I buy a bike outside the state, it has to have more than 7500 miles when I bring it into the DMV the very first time. I typically only look at bikes for sale within CA now to avoid the DMV issues. The DMV here SUCKS! Plus, now they have that law where if it's an out-of-state vehicle and you have owned it less than 1 year when you bring it into the state, you need to pay CA a gap tax (tax difference between the location where you last registered it and your current CA location). On a car, this could be thousands of $$ that a person could owe the state just for having brought the car into the state! Total BS.

Best of luck to you on your 97' but you may be up a creek at this point, unfortunately. Please post the outcome when you get a chance ...I'd like to see what you experience.

Steve

Hi Steve,

The DMV doesn't know about the bike. I went to the AAA to register it, and they tore up the paperwork when they saw the odo, so the DMV is unaware.

If I have to, I'll tear the thing apart (again), and reset the odo.

Any relatives in other states? Sell it to them, Register it there, ride it for the necessary miles (couple of months) then have them sell it back to you (for a buck)

Update: Put the tag from my 750 on the bike and am riding it to work. Up to 6k miles now, should be up to 7.5k by January.

Can you drive vehicles around in CA (or any other states ) with the rego from out of that state? Here in West Aus we are allowed 3 months before we need to re-register the bike in WA (I believe the other states work the same ), this is to allow for people that are on holiday or in the state on a temporary basis to still use the vehicle without re-registering it
I know of lots of people that don't bother and just drive the vehicle and even pay their rego to the other state on the net

IDK about that, but the bike has had an Ohio reg for > 2yrs (it was a basket case when I got it).

I'm just to the point where I've said fuck it, it's too much fun to ride the thing, and I'll risk getting caught. It's even insured!

Besides, pretending to be the 'Black Devil of Moscow' nightly on the way home is addictive. <g>

I'll have the miles where they need to be soon, and it serves CA right to have to wait for the tax $$ since they are so damn stupid about it. Assholes that can't meet TSA standards end up in the California DMV.

FWIW, it is very easy to swap the mileage mechanism out. I had a 1998 XX and it fell of a trailer at 70 MPH. I bought a set of gauges of eBay but they read 30K miles, while my 1998 only had 7K at the time. I took the unit apart and swapped my lower mileage odometer into the gauges. I think I have the higher mileage unit in a drawer in my shop. PM if you want to play with it. Yours for the shipping...............

As has been stated, pulling out the speedo is easy, so I would suggest one of the following, either take it apart like Stan said and correct the wheels, I had to repair the speedo on a 97 BB once (long story), so I know that what he suggested is true and easy. That or, ask Toxxic if you can borrow his old unit, correct it back to 7500+ miles, install it, register, then put your old one back in, and return Toxxic's back to him. Then, at least, you'll be legal to lose your license.... you BlackDevil Rider.

Because the alternative is you possible getting caught on a unregistered bike, while riding at high speeds, at night on the California Highway system...... Hmmmmmm.... I wonder how the CHP would react to that ?

let me guess...... Unregistered bike, High speeds.... means you must have stolen it, because it definitely not yours, so the proof is in the evidence alone, so what you might be looking at is, Grand theft auto, speeding, and they would impound your bike, and you'd never get it back.....

Your call.

Thanks for the offers, guys. I'm going to risk another few weeks and just ride the thing.

BTW, I'm far from the fastest guy out here. There are a lot of guys passing me @ > 100, and one guy with hard bags that's just insane. So I hope I'm low profile enough.

Finally went the the DMV today w/the odo showing 8,200. Lots of out of state vehicles in line to be checked, including a BMW 740i that was heavily leaking coolant. There is a large bill in that lady's future! No problems, except that it took a long time. People @ the DMV were nice, but are struggling with a system that forces them to check 4 different, huge binders to get the info they needed to process this crap.

So that's a worry off my back. Whew!