Can i just move the sensor from my old motor to my new one. I Was Informed it is the Timing sprocket that i was working on
New motor picture below

old motor picture below

I did do some research and it appears to me 97-03 black birds do have the same sensor.
Here are the covers I don't know what to think.

you can see the difference in the inside of the cover where the sensor is suppost to be.

I think that is aftermarket and adjustable in the new one and that is ign...Cam sensor is up top on the head.

Well Im going to try to change it so it fits my wiring harness

kudos to you for taking on such a project. Not all of us have the same skills. Keep us posted, some are watching with anticipation. Looks like you might be close.

I hope I am close. After that cover is on I hope to put the motor back in the bike hook the chain up so i tighten the clutch down to sprock. Then it is just the wiring

bout how many hours do you have in the entire project? just wondering, kinda think I'll be a bird man till the end.

i have about 10 hours in so far. But I bought a motor and trans with nothing on it. I had to transfer stuff over. I will never do that again

I need to correct this. What I am working on is the timing sprocket

Has anyone seen one of these before and if you have what would it have been used for

I was over at Wetzel's today and this looks like an aftermarket ignition piece.

The scary part is the red gasket sealant on the head gasket.

I didn't take a picture of that yet. I think im going to borescope the motor if I can get the tool from my uncle

thats fine, post pictures of the old one, someone might want it

I used the old one because I don't have to correct plug on my wireing harness

corrected for Texan translation

I will post another picture of it

Just bolt the old cover on and use the trigger plate from the old bike.

There's no point in switching the sensor to the other cover.

I did that already. the motor is sitting there waiting to be reinstalled.

almost there!!

hopfully tonight i can put it in.

And 8 hours later
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The motor is in the bike and everything is hooked up.
We turned the motor over. Tomorrow will be the day I fire it I hope.

nothing to it. I have pulled mine replaced the trans and replaced the motor in 8 hours, by my self. Good thing cause if anybody had come over I would never had got it done.

Proud of you guys...

Well It would have been sooner but we had some people come over.
There is a new problem the bike doesn't want to run.
I have checked the following

1 all electrical connections
2 vacum line is correct
3 pulled a fuel line to make sure fuel was flowing. IT IS

Anyone one else have ideas

Given the red sealant on the head gasket, all bets are off. I would have pulled the head off to check everything out first. Plus you could have put a thinner head gasket on and gained a little compression.

As for the starting problem, check and make sure the cam timing is correct. The previous owner may have just "thrown" the motor together to sell it.
Good Luck.

does it turn over?
does it have spark? if it turns over.
does it have compression?

It does turn over. It has good compression. I will have to check for spark. Im assuming it would have spark since I used my coils.

The head gasket Gaged the same thickness from the blown motor to the other one.

I just went out and bought new plugs. Im going to change them and hope for the best.

How would i check the timming?

Well that is going to be a little harder, but a timing light will work with a induction pickup.
When you pull the plugs stick one in the coil wire and touch it to some metal and turn over looking for a spark first, or just hold it and see if it shocks you....
Also, a little gas sqirted in the carbs will deal with gas flow problems,

Check that alll your plugs are connected well. On top of the motor. Nothing pinched. by the frame, and motor. Make sure that you have put the plug wires on the right plug. And that the correct coil wire is to the + side of the coil. Got the ground wire on the frame and starter tight.
I forget is it carbed or Fi.
check all your fuzes including the one under the red cover...

I'm working on changing the plugs right now. I did get it to run for a few sec's. First three plugs are WET. Which is not a problem I bought new plugs just neglected to put them in

Well changed the pluged and now it seems to want to start even more. I will work on it alittle later dinner time

Make sure the intake manifold clamps are tight on both the head and carb ends.
They require being tightened a little more than spec as they harden with age...

IT IS RUNING. But not like it should be. It will not idle. It reminds me of my harley I use to own in that way.
Valves need to be adjusted Which I am not going to do. I will be sending it in to the shop for that.

Check your valve timing. Section8 in the manual.

If this was a drag motor it could have been changed or You may not have stock cams.

+1

I have read on up on them. I don't know if i can do this one. It will cost 300 to have it taken care of by the pro's

All you have to do is pull the valve cover and turn the motor over to "top dead center" on #1 cylinder. Then check and see if the timing marks on the cam sprockets are where they are supposed to be. You will also want to check to see if the cam sprocket mounting holes are "slotted". It's possible they may have slipped out of adjustment causing the bike to run bad. If you're not comfortable with all this, maybe one of the Wisconsin guys on here can help you out.

Well the cycle is back up and running for now

One of the things I have run into, is that the #1 can be #4 and have never understood just how it knows the difference. Now don't get me wrong, I know, but something I learned a long time ago, is that you need to assemble the entire motor to get it correct. And if your just doing the cams, I might be hard to know which number one it is.
If you pull the top balance cover, and turn the motor, the number one,,,, number one, only comes up when the mark aligns on this pointer. Tough call if the balancers are not in.


To clear up the Texan speak to those who don't ...#1 and #4 are at the top at the same time. But the cams are turning half speed. So the correct terms is #1 compression stroke. Now if the cams are out, you ain't going to get any compression,,,well that ain't right all your going to get is compression...

I have only seen it once, but just to be sure, check both the tdc marker and the balance marker for the win...


Questions from the translators???