Hey TJ,

I started drinking a jar of grape juice immediately after a workout.

I've only been doing that since monday, but it REALLY seems to be 'what my body wants'... So on my way home I drink a jar of grape juice first (which is within about 5 minutes of my last set of lifting) and then my protein shake.

I feel jazzed after I drink the juice.

I suspect next week I will notice a bump in my workouts.

I do know that in the morning I wake up and my muscles feel MUCH more pumped this week instead of waking up and feeling drained.

A couple guys at the gym this week have commented that my arms looked bigger also. Which pleases me because I have been getting much leaner, yet not losing any size in my chest/arms (yeah, I'm a dork, and I measure just to check)

Anyway, if how I feel this week after starting with the grape juice post workout is any indication of how my workouts will be next week I'll be singing your praises on tuesday.

A couple of things... 1st... Man its hard to find grape juice, not grape 'cocktail'.

I buy the frozen 100% juice from concentrate? OK? Or is concentrate not as good???

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Anything else besides coconut milk that I could use? I'm not sure if I can find coconut milk, or if I'll like it.... but just curious

Regarding the turkey before a workout... What about chicken instead? Or same issue with the tryptophan???

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Thinking about what I eat before I got to bed... You said lose the frozen burrito... Basically no carbs right before bed????

You said if anything eat healthy non-manmade saturated fats before bed?

What would your suggestion be? (for the non-manmade saturated fats)

I was thinking of replacing the burritto with eggs and some vegetable??????

Should I be concerned about the cholesterol in the egg yolks? (I'm not now, but people keep yacking about the egg yolks???)

[quote=XNiKX]Hey TJ,[/quote]

Hey bud!

[quote]I started drinking a jar of grape juice immediately after a workout.
I've only been doing that since monday, but it REALLY seems to be 'what my body wants'...[/quote]

Yep, pretty amazing isn't it? Gives a whole new meaning to "juicing"
doesn't it.. Just think about it bro, we're both "on the juice" now.. :lol:

Seriously though, it is just about the most effect natural technique
you can do to aid the body in recovery post workout (which is actually
what anabolic steroids do..).

I will post the science behind why it works in the future. It's based
on an effect called "insulin rebound" described in the biomed literature.

[quote]So on my way home I drink a jar of grape juice first (which is within about 5 minutes of my last set of lifting) and then my protein shake.[/quote]

Excellent!

[quote]I feel jazzed after I drink the juice.
I suspect next week I will notice a bump in my workouts.[/quote]

Let me put it to you this way, after putting all of my research into
recovery and my training program (which I am slowly posting in
another thread) I have NOT hit a plateau. We're talking 4 years
of constant strength improvements.. It's freaky..

[quote]I do know that in the morning I wake up and my muscles feel MUCH more pumped this week instead of waking up and feeling drained.
[/quote]

That's when you'll notice it too.. After 8 hours of sleep (and the
HgH that was released the night before) you'll see the effects of
enhanced recovery. You'll wake up and think you could immediately
hit the gym and start rep-ing out..

[quote]A couple guys at the gym this week have commented that my arms looked bigger also. Which pleases me because I have been getting much leaner, yet not losing any size in my chest/arms (yeah, I'm a dork, and I measure just to check)[/quote]

You're not a dork bud, that's what body builders are supposed to do..
You don't get bigger, then whats the point, eh? Me, if I don't get
stronger, I lose motivation.. That's why I meticulously monitor my
power output at each session..

If you do a cyclical low-carb thing (as I have suggested before) you will
get REALLY lean without losing muscle mass. If you load the grape juice
+ protein after each session you will recover and grow. Just remember
to drink lots of water after you consume the grape juice.. It helps
to load the glucose as stored muscle glycogen.

[quote]Anyway, if how I feel this week after starting with the grape juice post workout is any indication of how my workouts will be next week I'll be singing your praises on tuesday.[/quote]

Just be careful not to get too enthusiastic and start overtraining.
The "insulin rebound" can help you recover very quickly and that
power can psych you out into thinking you can go harder and longer.
Avoid the urge, or you'll defeat the enhanced recovery and start
overtraining -- stopping progress in its tracks..

[quote]A couple of things... 1st... Man its hard to find grape juice, not grape 'cocktail'.[/quote]

Yup, but only "pure" grape juice will work properly. It's pure glucose.
The cocktails are "fructose syrup" based and they cannot load as
glycogen in the muscles without being processed by the liver first
(and that takes too long for the insulin rebound effect..)

[quote]I buy the frozen 100% juice from concentrate? OK? Or is concentrate not as good???[/quote]

Just make sure the label indicates no fructose, or fructose syrups..

[quote]Anything else besides coconut milk that I could use? I'm not sure if I can find coconut milk, or if I'll like it.... but just curious[/quote]

You can go and buy MCT oil from your local GNC.. It's basically extracted
from coconut milk. The only trouble is that it's SUPER expensive.
If it gets too costly, just drop it from the shake and use the only
the flax oil and protein.. The coconut is the best thing to use if
you want the pre-workout energy boost though :wink:

[quote]Regarding the turkey before a workout... What about chicken instead? Or same issue with the tryptophan???[/quote]

Chicken is better, it's lower in tryptophan. Turkey is good in your
dinner meal -- before bed. It will help you relax.

[quote]Thinking about what I eat before I got to bed... You said lose the frozen burrito... Basically no carbs right before bed????[/quote]

*Absolutely* No carbs/sugars before bed. It will hamper your HgH
release and you will not recover properly.

[quote]You said if anything eat healthy non-manmade saturated fats before bed?[/quote]

Yep.. The fattier the better. Give yourself an hour (atleast) before
going to bed though. You want some of the fats to be digested before
sleeping. Saturated fats increase serum testosterone. That, in turn,
increases HgH output while you sleep.

[quote]What would your suggestion be? (for the non-manmade saturated fats)[/quote]

Eggs, meats, that sort of thing. Grill up some ground beef, or pork
chops or something.. That's what I do.. (that Foreman grill is a life
saver..)

If you don't have enough time for a full meal before going to bed,
you can take some more of that MCT oil, or coconut milk at that
time too.. (if you prefer to drink your evening meal..)

[quote]I was thinking of replacing the burritto with eggs and some vegetable??????[/quote]

Good choices!! Healthy fats, good protein, and fiberous veggies
are an excellent dinner choice.

[quote]Should I be concerned about the cholesterol in the egg yolks? (I'm not now, but people keep yacking about the egg yolks???)[/quote]

Nope, eggs (and shrimp) are very safe with regards to cholesterol.
Suffice it to say that the lecithin inside of them will keep the cholesterol
emulsified and you will have no worries about blockages, etc.

I eat eggs every day and the last time my cholesterol was tested it
was 120. (with my HDL _higher_ than my LDL at 51 to 49..)

TGIF Bud!!
:cool: TJ :cool:

TJ/Nik,
Thanks for the interesting reads. I had just ventured to these posts in the last few weeks and found them very interesting. I am not positive but I believe I may be Hypoglycemic, haven't made an appointment with the Doc yet to find out. I read some of the other posts about the Diabetes and I know that I have always felt better (headaches and shakes) after drinking Orange Juice. I had forgotten about the frozen concentrates until this post and will be looking for those at the grocery.

Thanks again to everyone on the information in these posts.