I love these tires! :grin: Very neutral, light steering. They are great at absorbing bumps while vertical and horizontal. :wink:

I just hope they wear/last as good as the hype says and no front cupping.

btw. 40 F 42 R

I rode on them Sun, these tires stick!!!!!!!
Very neutral steering and give a very comfy ride!
I love them!

Put another 1k on them this weekend, still love them. Wear is great. Stick and handling are perfect.

Carlos,

Just curious - how many miles do you have on your bird?

Joe

Ok that does it. These are the tires that I am going to before the Hoot in June. Was just waiting for a couple of you guys to post some more on them.

Thanks,

Ken

did a 300 miler on the Roads sun. :cool: , granted the road conditions where not all that good but a nice 10 miler and rode about 7/10ths :grin:
very stable and tar snakes have no effect on them :) Flicked back and forth at about 80 mph and could not get even a shake out of them :shock:
are they any better than the Avons :???: I don't know, but they certainly can't be any worse :wink:
Either tire from what I have been reading and hearsay is great. Their are two advantages to the Avons.

1- about $20.00 a set cheaper
2- they actually have a 1,000 mile defect warrenty on the tire

Ken get the Avons :grin: so we can compare notes :wink:

Harry

Just 47k now. Last couple years I've been traveling for work all the time, so could only ride half the time.

BTW: I remember seeing some posts of feeling the tread rumble at low speeds, 5 to 10 mph. I have not felt this. :grin:

There is a nice curvy road I go on where they decided to machine grooves in the pavement only in some corners. Why, I don't know. To mess with sport bikes? winter traction? Whatever. But these Avons don't react badly with them.

BBIRDXX2000, What tires do you have??????????
Pilot Roads????????

Did 381 miles yesterday (Sun.) :grin: , the road cond. are still a little messy, but I found one rd. Rt. 873 that was 80 percent clean. Did a couple 100MPH sweepers without really pushing it :cool: . These are the best handling tire's ever :grin: , and I have 45,000 miles on the bird so I have been through about 1-2 tires :lol: , looks like the Roads and the Avons are the best choices for the bird (my opinion :wink: ).
I will have a mileage figure by the end of June when I go to the C.O.G. National, along with deals Gap. :grin: , Cherohala skyway and the B.R.P. and of course lets not forget W.V. :cool: :cool:


Harry

After posting I realized I went uner the wrong topic :oops: :oops: , please forgive me :cry:

Harry

I rode 205's last year and for my first 2 trips of this year. I was wary of leaning too far and they surely walked a bit in deeper turns at any speed. These were my first sport tires on my first sport bike so I had no basis by which to compare how (badly) the 205's handled. I figured they were above average and that some sportier riders were just picky.

Now I've felt the Avons and man do I have the word for these sticky mothers:

FUN!

Man, I can't wait to get used to these things. These Avons transform the ride completely. I did not think a 275lb guy on a 500lb bike could go to the edge of a tire on West Virginia roads. I was wrong. I can't wait to ride again!

Now I see how you guys scrape shit on your bikes.

Oh, they do rumble when I am pushing Her out of the garage, but not at all on the road.

Squeeser, what part of W.V. are you from :grin: , you do relize of course you have the best roads east of the Miss. :cool:

Harry

Ps. been in that state 5-6 times and still havent hit all the good roads yet. maybe we can convince Joe for the 2004 NEXXT :wink:

The rear tire had 9/32's" when new. A little dissapointed to see 7/32's" now in the middle with 700 miles on it. Those real shallow tread lines that swirl across are just about flush at the middle.

Front no measureable wear. Can't even feel any slight cupping by running hand across both ways. :grin:

42 psi rear 40 front. No burnouts, tires too expensive. :shock:

Pete, a common mistake a few guys make is taking the measurements in differant spots :sad: , not saying you did this. Use your valve stem as a referance point :wink:

Harry

Good point Harry, when they are about bald they don't go bald evenly. LIKE ME!! :roll:

Well, here is the first negative thing on the 45/46"s

At 2500 miles the rear is down to 3/32nds :cry:
I don't do burnouts, just ride pretty hard. If the wear rate doesn't slow down this could be almost the worst rear for wear i've used.

Starting to question allignment again, in another post.

The front is great, no cupping, forgot to measure though.

Already thinking what next, Roads? Will see how they wear when you guys start wearing them out.

I have 2700 miles on mine now, didn't measure the depth, but if the wear doesn't slow down, they'll be gone soon. I don't do burnouts, but i ride pretty hard. The sides are in excellent shape, no chicken strips.
But i love them. I don't know what i'll run next.

i've got close to 3k on my avons, i'm very pleased. very slight squaring after that much mileage. they handle all types of pavement and temps quite well. i'll definetly buy them again.

Well, at just over 7500 miles (corrected for speedo error) my rear is definitely shot. You can barely make out the tread lines in the center. The front, as with most of the Avons, seems to be good for about two rears, or nearly so. The rear is flattened but gently, so there isn't a ridge as with all the other brands I've tried. It is still neutral in turns, except right in the area of a slight lean where it rolls onto the flatter center.

Phenomenal performance, and the life is nearly as long as the crap touring tires like the D205 and BT57.

I think 7500 is a reasonable wear lifetime for a rear tire on a roadbike, especially if the tire performs well overall.

Swamp, How did you get 7500miles to bald out of the rear?? at 2500 miles I'm at 3/32 in the middle. Did I get a bad tire? I'm running 42 psi is it too high? Am I out of allignment? Or will the wear rate slow down now and I will get 7500 miles?

How the hell do you get 7500 miles out of a rear????????????
There is no way mine is going to last 5000 miles.
I'm running 40 psi in the rear. Like i said, no burnouts, no high speed runs, no stupid shit just riding.

I'm starting to wonder if it's our shitty roads in PA, but I think that would be offset by the hotter temps in the southwest. This tire thing is REALLY starting to irritate me! Every time I think I found my new tire something goes wrong, cupping, wear etc.

Same here (4500 miles on the tire with roughly 1000 to go to the wear mark). Freeway riding does not help.

Hugo

My pressures have been 37-38 in the rear and 36-37 front. I think that higher isn't always better. I know with car tires at some point higher pressure results in more center wear. I don't know if this is true with bike tires.

Here's something to think about...maybe with higher pressures you get more slippage under high loads, which wears more than simply having lower pressures? I don't KNOW this to be true, but think it's a reasonable theory. My contact at Avon says he runs his own at about 36/38.

I don't do burnouts, but I do wheelie a lot. I've got edge-to-edge wear but I also commute a lot and do long touring rides, so the center is worn much more. At 7650 miles now, the center barely has a hint of groove left. This is more worn than I normally take a tire, but I couldn't find one on the road. Seems fine though, no sign of any issues. I know I've seen people ride them to the cords, so I guess it's safe unless it rains.

I'm planning on about a 300 mile day this sunday the 22nd. I'll drop the rear to 38 and see how it looks during the ride.

PETE IN PA, WE'LL BE RIDING RTE. 125 UP TO WHERE IT MEETS RTE.61, THEN TAKE 487 N UP INTO BLOOMSBURG THEN RUN 80 E. TO RTE.339 S. INTO MAHANOY CITY. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

With the Avons I don't like dropping the pressure below 38F/40R as there are many bumpy roads around and the added feedback goes into upsetting the - still stock - fork. I am going to make a move on the suspension soon as it is starting to seriously bother me.

Also on the wear thing: I've been using - a lot - engine brake as a workaround for the LBS which should account for some added wear. Should I add, that I am - sometimes - as smooth as a brick with the throttle :grin:

Hugo

That reminds me. On the ride I noticed just what a HUGE difference the re-valving makes. The XX behind me was stock, and his headlight was really annoying bouncing all over the place like crazy. Mine was rock steady.

I bet the different in tyre wear is riding style. The time where you do most wear to a tyre is on acceleration. If you're dropping a couple of cogs and nailing the throttle to pass cars, or you're accelerating really hard out of corners you'll chew the tyres to bits very, very quickly. OTOH, if you are really smooth and use higher corner speeds, more angle, but less throttle on exit, you'll get far greater mileage. My road riding is really smooth - very little big fistfulls of throttle, lots of interstate travel, and I always get big mileage from my tyres. The D208GPs on my mille I got almost 4500 miles out of them, riding really hard through the twisties. Most others on the same bike and tyre are lucky to get 2000mi.

I always thought it was heat (besides hard acceleration) that made tires wear faster. I have also thought of the too high tire press. wearing the middle faster.

I'm going to drop rear to 38 also, WTH tire about dead anyway.

Front at 4/32nds, was 6/32nds new. I think I'll drop it too.
Absolutely no cupping though. :grin:

Now I know why I never get very many miles out of the back tire. :-o

I'm one tooth down on the countershaft. I like to pass WFO and accelerate hard any chance I get, as well as riding around on one wheel whenever possible. However, when riding fast around corners, I don't know how hard I'm riding out of corners. I mean, I like the acceleration a lot, but I try to be very smooth and trade the cornering/lean for acceleration slowly as I straighten up.

I do know that road surface makes a big difference too.

I love these tires! Very neutral, light steering. They are great at absorbing bumps while vertical and horizontal.

I just hope they wear/last as good as the hype says and no front cupping.

btw. 40 F 42 R
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Agreed :cool:

I have about 3000 miles on mine and no front cupping what-so-ever.
I'll probably go through 2 rears before i have to replace both.