Redbird
Dec 20 2005, 01:55 PM
Credit to JRed (oops, sorry, Red J) for the idea and the initial deposit.
Here's how it works-
I needed shims to ajust my valves. J was nice enough to send me some extras he had on hand. I'm done with them and will await the next person in need to PM me, at which point I will forward them. That person will then post here and then then hold onto them until the next guy needs them, and so on, and so on.
I also plan on sourcing a few new shims and "depositing" them. It was nice to be able to get the shims from a friend, ajust the valves and then worry about ordering a few new ones at my leisure.
With how often these bikes need valve ajustments this thread will probably just rot, but it may make a nice resource for someone someday.
Mikey
Dec 20 2005, 01:59 PM
This is a good idea. The LD riders forum has the same "shim bank". Basically you use what they have, deposite what you removed and replaced. If you have to pick up a 002 because there isn't one. Pick up 2 and drop the extra in. It's a good will plan really. The idea is not money savings but convenience for when you are up at 11pm doing your shims on a saturday night and you need a source of shims.
Northman
Dec 20 2005, 03:22 PM
Now I feel like an ass for giving away the 20 or so extra shims I had after last year's project. :?
Redbird
Dec 20 2005, 03:52 PM
I guess we'll have to ban Canadians from the shim bank, apparently the suck at sharing. :lol:
Who the hell did you give them to?
Northman
Dec 20 2005, 04:40 PM
QUOTE(Redbird)
Who the hell did you give them to?
Kawasaki Canada's race team
Red J
Dec 21 2005, 04:21 AM
QUOTE(Northman)
Now I feel like an ass for giving away the 20 or so extra shims I had after last year's project. :?
You ass...
We'll let you back in, but you must donate all of the shims in your engine, right now.
J.
Keith
Dec 21 2005, 05:31 PM
That's an excellent idea. I think it would also be good to have an inventory of
the number and size of shims that are in the bank at any given time, maybe an
Excel spread sheet, or just a simple text table, that the current "banker" keeps
updated and passes on to the next "banker" when the inventory is moved.
Warchild
Dec 27 2005, 07:40 AM
Redbird, do you happen to have the Shim Kit at the moment?
Looks like I'll be needing it soon.... now that the FJR is back on the road, I want to take the Blackbird down for a couple weekes to do HID lights and fork service.... and valve clearance check.
I haven't had to adjust any before, but now with over 70,000 miles on the odo, I bet a couple of them need adjustment this time... :?
Redbird
Dec 27 2005, 08:30 PM
Yeah, I've still got them. I have yet to add to them, but I'll catalogue what's here and post it up. Depending on what your time frame is I'll send off what I've got (it's only 15 shims at this point), or I can get off my ass an order a few and send you something more complete.
HERBXX
Dec 27 2005, 08:45 PM
Redbird
Dec 27 2005, 09:25 PM
Yeah, I had found that, and while it is a great per shim price, it includes quite a few that will be useless to us. Also, not to be a dick, but I wasn't to hip on dropping $90+ with shipping all on my own.
If you guys want to go that route, I'll put up the first $35, if we can pull together $50-$60 beyond that we'll be set for awhlie. Otherwise my plan is to spend that $35 on individual shims in sizes the bank is presently lacking. At around $4-$6 per shim most places I've looked, that will obviously not add to the collection quite like the full kit.
Northman
Dec 27 2005, 09:32 PM
I'm in for $10 of that.
HERBXX
Dec 27 2005, 10:04 PM
I just threw it up for your consideration. . There are a couple of tunners close to me that i'm sure have lots of shims, and i imagine if i walked in and was real nice they would sell me just what i need. Since i only have 25000 km on my bike im not even planning on checking the valves for long while yet .
Herb
Dano
Dec 31 2005, 12:30 AM
QUOTE(Warchild)
I want to take the Blackbird down for a couple weekes to do HID lights and fork service.... and valve clearance check.
I haven't had to adjust any before, but now with over 70,000 miles on the odo, I bet a couple of them need adjustment this time... :?
Dale; Didn't you just do the forks durning the Wilbers buy?
I suppose I should check my valve clearances, now at 22 k miles. Missed the 16k mark by a few.. :?
Redbird
Dec 31 2005, 04:49 PM
Okay, doesn't seem to be much interest in going for the full kit. I was at the dealer today picking up some fork oil so I said screw it and picked up a few. Here's what we have now-
190- 1
192-2
195- 6
198- 6
200- 2
202- 2
205- 1
208- 1
Dano
Jan 1 2006, 08:48 PM
Thanx! I hope to do the inspection sometime this winter. Hope I don't need any but nice to know they are @.
Now it's out to the garage to install my new carbon fiber hugger! The family was so surprised to see that Santa left it for me. :D
db
done
DaveK
Jan 9 2006, 12:20 AM
QUOTE(Northman)
Now I feel like an ass for giving away the 20 or so extra shims I had after last year's project. :?
You ARE an ass !
Warchild
Feb 16 2006, 04:38 PM
Well, now that I (thankfully) don't have to pull cams and adjust the shims, I'm ready to send the shim bank off to whoever needs it next.....
CALCXX
Feb 19 2006, 08:37 PM
QUOTE(Warchild @ Feb 16 2006, 08:38 AM)

Well, now that I (thankfully) don't have to pull cams and adjust the shims, I'm ready to send the shim bank off to whoever needs it next.....
Dale, this is good to hear, 70K and your XX is still within tolerance?
My guess is that Honda has probably sold maybe a dozen shims Worldwide? :D
This shim bank is a good idea. To quote Tim, "this thread may rot"
This XX has a hellava good motor!!
Warchild
Feb 19 2006, 09:11 PM
QUOTE(CALCXX @ Feb 19 2006, 10:37 AM)

Dale, this is good to hear, 70K and your XX is still within tolerance?
And not just "within tolerance"....... 15 of the 16 were still smack dab in the
center of the spec range!
The inboard exhaust of #3 cylinder was just a tiny bit tighter than the others, but still well,
well within the range, so I'm not yanking the cams to mess with it,
Concur that this motor is one understressed, overbuilt bastard....
R1000
Sep 12 2006, 08:39 PM
QUOTE(Dano @ Jan 1 2006, 10:48 PM)

Thanx! I hope to do the inspection sometime this winter. Hope I don't need any but nice to know they are @.
Now it's out to the garage to install my new carbon fiber hugger! The family was so surprised to see that Santa left it for me. :D
db

done
Nice hugger, is it real carbon or an imitation (there are nice imitations around). Where can it be ordered?
bajjer9
Nov 21 2006, 05:37 PM
So who has the bank now? I will need em once J. sends me a replacement head...of course i will put back what i take and possibly add more if required?
airborneXX
Nov 23 2006, 12:57 AM
QUOTE(bajjer9 @ Nov 21 2006, 12:37 PM)

So who has the bank now? I will need em once J. sends me a replacement head...of course i will put back what i take and possibly add more if required?
Last I heard Warchild had it. I PM'ed him about it a few weeks ago, but I didn't need any so I told him to never mind before he had a chance to look for it.
MrBadExxample
Mar 9 2007, 01:50 PM
Does Warchild still have the shim bank? I'll send him a PM.
bajjer9
Mar 11 2007, 05:53 PM
i need the kit..warchild you still have it?
TechnoGecko
Mar 14 2007, 10:54 PM
QUOTE(bajjer9 @ Mar 11 2007, 11:53 AM)

i need the kit..warchild you still have it?
Best bet is to PM him, not sure if he reads threads over here anymore...
shanesublett
Dec 2 2007, 06:25 AM
The mr2 owners club at www.mr2oc.com has a shim bank. The little toyota engines use 'em, and they are a bitch to "buy and try". Sometimes all the math in the world, doesn't add up! Anyhow, I believe they had a spreadsheet. I will do some fishing and see if I can find one. Found it. This is not a honda shim bank, just a copy so perhaps we could steal the idea. I believe it was made on excel.
Click to view attachment
TuffguyF4i
Dec 19 2008, 05:58 PM
I have plans to do my XX this winter. Do you guys think i could get ahold of this kit?
I will probally do my cousins F4i at the same time. Would it take the same size of shims?
Either way, i'll contribute whatever the acceptable amount is to the bank. Where do you order shims from?
Redbird
Dec 19 2008, 09:51 PM
Last anyone here heard of this Warchild had it (I sent it to him). I haven't contacted him personally, but I was told he said he sent it to someone else but doesn't recall who. The end result is it's gone ):
I suppose I should unpin or delete this thread.
You can probably get shims from your dealer. Much cheaper from Ronayers if you got a little time. I just ordered some for the SV and they shipped the next day.
cbrxxquad
Jan 31 2009, 03:26 AM
tomek
Feb 19 2009, 10:32 PM
Dennic Kirk sells refill kits for Hot Cams.That way you can get shims in the thickness range that you actually need.In my dealings with 5 mm shims I only needed them in 1.6-1.8mm range.
cbrxxquad
Feb 20 2009, 02:30 AM
Brent bought a set and sent them to me....So I have some that are Brents'
Hummmmmm.
mattrosswalker
Apr 5 2010, 12:45 PM
My bird has 21k miles on it and I still haven't gotten around to getting my valves checked...how bad is it to do really? And how necessary is it at this mileage as I've heard of these bikes runnin way farther.
I've got a 1982 CB900 that I have done the shims on before so it's not a big deal...everything is just a bit more compact on the bird and I'm not really looking forward to it.
However...if that bank ever comes back into play I might need to borrow it.
Para045
Apr 5 2010, 01:55 PM
QUOTE(mattrosswalker @ Apr 5 2010, 09:45 PM)

My bird has 21k miles on it and I still haven't gotten around to getting my valves checked...how bad is it to do really? And how necessary is it at this mileage as I've heard of these bikes runnin way farther.
Got a mobile mechanic to check mine last June during the bikes (only) 1st major service since I got it 3 1/2 yrs & ~60 000km after I got the bike (now at 98 500km) and all were within spec
Checking them seemed fairly easy but changing them looks like a bit of a pain, then again not many XX's need them changed
jon haney
Jul 27 2010, 04:25 PM
I have some extra shims, and would be happy to trade with anyone who needs some different ones. Also, I believe the shims for a Honda CRF450 have the same O.D. and will work in the Bird.
JB4XX
Jan 25 2011, 10:11 PM
QUOTE(Redbird @ Dec 27 2005, 04:25 PM)

not to be a dick
asshole.
Redbird
Jan 25 2011, 10:20 PM
You having fun?
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