So I decided it was time to change my oil filter, and instead of going to the Yamaha/Honda dealership and getting the factory oil filter, I opted to go to the Mom and Pop shop right down the street and purchased an aftermarket brand filter. After talking to a guy who apparently knows everything about bikes, I was told that was an incredibly stupid move on my part. He goes on to say how aftermarket filters commonly collapse causing major engine damage.
Is there any truth to this, or should I not worry too much and just ride?

I've heard some of the same stuff. Not worth the chance for me. For a few more bucks, I'm sticking with the Honda filter and changing it every other service.

Buy the Honda filter three or four at a time (their cheap) and change them every oil change. Other than tires that is the only service your Bird will require of you for years of a loving relationship.

I use our house-branded Hastings filter from a Mazda RX8. No problems in 31,000+ miles. :lol:

At 17.00 dollars a pop, that's not exactly cheap, but hey, I'm no Lawyer either.

What a load of shit.

I'm sure he's actually watched this phenoma occure on three separate occasions. :roll:

People are so full of shit and misinformation its pathetic.

Purolater Pure One part number PL14612.

Widely considered one of the finest filters, cage or bike, anywhere.

Nuff said.

Can you say RAPE !!!!

Order a few from Honda Directline or Ron Ayers or Service Honda !!
You should be able to buy them for 1/2 that price.

His name didn't happen to be Johnny, did it?


I've been using Fram filters from Wal-Mart for the last 18k mile or so. Labeled as being for a CBR1100XX and cost ~$3.50 if memory serves. So far they seem to be resisiting the massive vacuum generated by the oil pump on this bike.

Yamaha: 3FV-13440-00
Perf-Form: J-503
Emgo: 10-82232
FRAM: PH6017A
K&N: KN-303
Purolator: ML16817

Yamaha shops will always have that filter, it is by far the most common oil filter for yamaha's and is IDENTICAL except the brand text, to the honda, even the writing on it is the same. Cheep too....

I just did an oil change with a fram. My only complaint was that my Honda oil wrench didn't fit the Fram. IMO the Fram looked like it was made a little better than the Honda one was.

Hastings LF113. $1.37 my cost. :wink:

+1, I use the PL14610 which is the 3.25" flavor (vs. PL14612 2.75" flavor) cause it fits in behind the full yoshi header...

Either is about $6 at Fleet Farm...

Bigger is better, right?

I formely used fram but after the huge test I saw they were ranked very low. And I also remember a few racers having filter blow outs on the track with them. Just my opinion,so stop using them :)

STP smo-17. 4.99$ at Autozone. :wink:

I have used the super tech st6607 from wal-mart for about 20K no problems at all and the price is right. Anyone else use this filter.



Mike

My last oil change...


oh... nevermind... :oops:

I had the filter test info, if I find it I will post it, Fram was the worst tested pieces of the bonding glue that bond the paper to the ends were falling off like slag, some had issues with the blow off spring design, I'm using the OEM about $7 from Honda Direct Line.

:lmao:

+1 and the NAPA Gold 1365.

I know many people who use Fram. I used Fram also for many years. Never heard of anyone that I know that had any trouble from using that filter. I do use the Honda now but I wouldn't lose sleep if the Fram was on now.

At the start of the season this year, I bought 8 of the OEM filters from Ron Ayers... yea, I know.. it's not a substitute cheapie, but they were only $9 each, plus shipping. I throw more $ away on way more stupid shit than OEM oil filters, and the OEM ones fit my Honda oil filter cap wrench, too.

well... NOW you do! I got Fram'd on my Nighthawk S... Trashed 2, $50 hydrolic valve adjusters and would've trashed 2 valves and 2 finger followers if I hadn't cought it... probably would've wollowed out the adjuster holes in the head too, causing me to have to replace the head...

Noticed there was a ticking that kept getting luoder over a couple thousand miles... So I took the valve cover off and lowe and behold, there were 2 finger followers that were loose to the valves... I took out those 2 hydrolic adjusters (BIG PITA BTW, because the cams have to come out, and you have to re-time the engine when you're done) and cleaned them in a butter container with kerosene... sure enough, I got a 0.075 - 0.100" piece of cardboard out of each of them... It was stopping the oil from getting past the check valve in the adjuster and causing the valve lash to get big because of no hydrolic pressure pushing up on the finger follower... I ended up just replacing the adjusters, even though both finger followers were slightly bent,but they weren't TOO bad, and I didn't want new ones to wear funny on the cams and tash the cams, so I just left the slightly bent ones in there... they still seem to be doing fine though...

Also, a friend of mine had a Fram filter explode on his Lumina and dump the oil while he was driving... guess who got the call to bring him a good filter and oil when he was out in BFE?

Needless to say, I don't use them any more!

Mike

Okey-doke, no more Fram filters for me.


Still not going to pay $8+ for the one that says Honda on it, though.

ROFL!

I also use the SuperTech ST6607. I don't use the Fram as there's just been too much documentation about them.

Thanks for the report, Mike.

This is what I've compiled so far for swappable bits.

Bike info:
Front tire: 120/70ZR17
Rear tire: 180/55ZR17
Chain size: 530x110 DID530ZVM
Front Sprocket: 17
Rear Sprocket: 45
Battery: YTX12-BS
Sparkplug: CR9EHVX-9

Same battery as:
VF750C/C2 Magna 94-01
VF750C Magna/Deluxe 94-98
VF750F VFR 90-97
PC800 89-98
VF800FI Interceptor 98-01
CB1000 94-95
VTR1000F Superhawk 97-01
CBR1100XX 97-01
CN250 Helix 86-87, 93-01
YZF600R
YZF750R
FZ1
Suzuki LT-F250F Ozark atv
Honda TRX250

Oil Filters

. Yamaha 3FV-13440-00
- Perf-Form J-503
- Emgo 10-82232
- K&N KN-303
- Purolator ML16817
- Hastings LF113
- Walmart ST6607
- NapaGold 1365
• AC Delco PF2135 about $10.
• AMSOil SMF103, about $9.
• FRAM PH6017A about $7.
• Honda 15410-MCJ-000, about $12.
• K&N KN-204, about $13. Has a metric nut on the end for easy removal.
• NAPA Gold 1358, Carquest 85358, WIX 51358 about $7 to $8.
• Purolator Motorcycle ML16817 about $6. Imported, not made by Purolator.
• STP SMO 07, about $7.

Automobile Filters, about 2.5 inches long
• Mobil M1-108, about $12.
Ph6607
• Purolator Pure One PL14612 about $6.
• Bosch 3300 about $6. About 64mm, doesn't quite fit oil filter wrenches. A real pain.
• WalMart SuperTech ST6607 about $2. Made by Champion.
• AC Delco PF1237 about $6. Ph6607
• NAPA Gold 1365 about $6.
• Purolator L14622 about $4.
• STP S-02876 about $3.
• Baldwin B1400.
• Hastings LF113.

Automobile Filters, about 3.25 inches long
• Bosch 3323 about $6
• Mobil 1 M1-110 about $10
• Purolator Pure One PL14610 about $6
• Purolator L14610 about $4
• NAPA Gold 1356, Carquest 85356, WIX 51356 about $6
• Deutsch D-370 about $4
• AC Delco PF-2057 about $6
• Motorcraft Long Life FL-821 about $4
• STP S-02867 about $3
• FRAM, Castrol, Penske 7317 about $3
• Baldwin B1402.
• Hastings LF240.


I've snagged this stuff throughout the net. I appologize for not being able to give credit where due. I did my own research for the battery reference though because at the Canadian Tire, they can't handle the actually battery number, but need a vehicle for reference. They didn't have a listing for the XX so I had to use other bits as references.

As for the conflicts:
- K&N KN-303 or 204? This conflict was created due to a posting earlier up. I don't know which is the best.

Hope this helps

FWIW, I used to be a big advocate of Fram filters, but haven't used one in at least 4-5 years due to a filter test I saw online.

I prefer to use the Honda filter. Other than that, I use the Purolator, or ACDelco filters.

NAPA Gold are also good, as are Wix.

I won't use cheap filters on the bike. The car, however, is a different story... :lol:

Where do you get those Purolator, ACDelco filters, NAPA Gold or Wix in Canada? I've only found the Frams at CT or PartsSource. I'm assuming the NAPA gold is found at NAPA.

I can buy them through suppliers, Mikey.

Ideal Supply carries the NAPA, we buy Purolator through Uni-Select, and my dad bought me the ACDelco filters through General Auto Parts in Rexdale. Any AC Delco dealer should be able to get them for you.

Wix can also be bought through Uni-Select. Check your local automotive jobbers. I'm sure there's something available in Hamilton.

Add me to the list... Fram filters on my old Buell S1 and a couple of friend's Harleys... I know... I know... (I got rid of the paint shaker!) Fired the H-Ds up and literally BLEW the oil lines off of the cases... Mine stayed on, but there was a high pressure spray from most of the oil line fittings. That cured me!

Some years back, I watched a guy get a oil bath when his AC Delco oil filter blew up on his chevy when he had his head under the hood. Kind of cool, really. :D

+1
Can't remember where, but I read something that convinced me to stop using the FRAM filters.


marty

Found that the Honda Goldwing GL1500 and GL1800 uses the exact same filter in South Africa, same part no. and all... only diffs is that they are for some reason cheaper than the Bird filter?? same part no???

ZAR 180 to ZAR 320 for Bird Honda Filter, while ZAR 90 to ZAR 150 for GoldWing Filter

When you guys say "the oil filter blows", do you mean the metal splits apart or the rubber gasket blows out causing the torturous oil bath? :?:

The AC filter I saw, blew up! Side split. :shock:

:lol: So true!

What....

somethin happen?

:roll:


















:lol: It's OK you've got a good excuse, and I don't think anybody else here is going to crack there oil pan with a "HAND TIGHT" manuver.

I'm using the Purolator Pure 1. PL14612 I believe I'm getting superior filtration from everything I've read, are only $6, and can buy them even on Sunday.

SO Nik, what did you do with the old oil pan?

Would make a fun target to blast holes in. Although I'm sure even a .22 could punch a hole clean through.

As soon as I get it packaged I'm going to send it to Trurotor so he can fix it and do with it what he pleases.