StPeteXX
Feb 1 2005, 06:40 PM
Is there a rear Honda rim, that will fit on the XX that will allow a 190 tire?
I don't want to jeopardize the handling by making a 190 fit on the stock 5.5" rim.
Rich
bartonmd
Feb 1 2005, 08:13 PM
well... you could always give it a "rim job" I suppose :lick:
wingedflight
Feb 2 2005, 09:21 AM
You can put the 190 on a 5.5" rim. If you don't want to effect the handling stay with the 180, the 190 will cause the XX to even fell heavier than it already is during turn in.
StPeteXX
Feb 2 2005, 03:02 PM
I understand that the stock 5.5" rim will force a 190 to fit. I understand that a 190 on a 5.5" rim will negatively affect the handling of the XX.
I wanted to know if there was a Honda rim that uses a 190 tire and if it will work on the XX. Would there be any noticeable difference with a 190 on the proper size rim allowing the tire to retain its designed profile? Would the handling remain mostly the same?
I also think the 180 on the XX looks so tiny from behind compared to a 190 that is on other liter bikes.
Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks guys (and girls).
Rich
Byrdman
Feb 2 2005, 03:58 PM
Didn't the 929 and the 954 run a 190 on the rear?
If so, the only changes would be spacers and possibly a slight modification of the caliper mounting location?
The Krypt Keeper
Feb 2 2005, 04:36 PM
I know the 929 did.. Buddy has one,
StPeteXX
Feb 2 2005, 06:42 PM
QUOTE(The Krypt Keeper)
I know the 929 did.. Buddy has one,
How much modification, if any was required. Or did it simply mount up?
What year is his XX? Mine is a '97.
Rich
The Krypt Keeper
Feb 2 2005, 07:28 PM
Sorry must have misunderstood :oops:
My buddy has a 929 01' I believe and it has a 190 on the rear tire. Came with a 190 from the factory.
I wouldn't know what modifications would be needed to make it fit a bird.
sorry for the confusion
Dion
Feb 2 2005, 07:46 PM
JB4XX
Feb 2 2005, 08:15 PM
QUOTE(Dion)
Hell ya, I want spinners :cool:
RichardCranium
Feb 2 2005, 11:35 PM
I say either just be a poser and get the 190 and cram in on there damn the poor handling or ride the bike with the tire than a team of really smart little japanese men designed the bike to use. The 180 doesnt look tiny but if tire envy is getting the better of you then go for it.
BTW ask Northman about the handling on the stock rim. I think he may have shit his pants but the fireworks were certainly entertaining when he touched his header down right in front of me due to the ass end kicking out on his 190 rear tire.
Byrdman
Feb 3 2005, 12:09 AM
White sparks from titanium are the best! :lol:
Northman
Feb 3 2005, 01:58 AM
Thanks for the support, guys :roll:
Yeah, the 190 looks impressive, but handles like shit leaned over. When the tire was relatively new (days 1&2), it handled decent, except for some minor squirming leaned over. Enough that I used up the full surface without much drama.
Then came day #3......
I think we had aboot 1000 miles on the tire by that time, and it was showing it's wear. On a hard right hander, the back end let go on me, and started drifting the whole bike wide. The front end dove when I let off the throttle to get back on line, and that's when the header touched.
Definite pucker moment, and pissed me off knowing that I had to ride more gently for the last two days of the trip (at least when the road wasn't straight :wink:)
FWIW, I put the tire on because it was cheap as hell, and I had heard a lot of second hand information on the handling when using a 190 tire. Turns out the rumors were true. :oops:
If you really insist on installing a 190, you might want to try a 190/55/17 instead of the 190/50/17. Supposed to have a better profile when mounted on a 5.5 inch rim.
I'm gonna stick with the 180 for now.....
Well if you live in Florida where there are no turns, then a 190 might be great???
:razz:
Byrdman
Feb 3 2005, 04:16 AM
MaXX
Feb 3 2005, 06:00 AM
Bottomline, a 190 on any rim will not be as responsive and turn in as good as a 180, FUCKING PERIOD!!! AND YES IT IS FUCKING NOTICEABLE. AND NO, YOU CAN'T FUCKING AVOID IT. Ain't Physics and Geometry a bitch?????
Now, with that out of the way, since you are not going to avoid the 190 handling any better, issue two you want to solve is the look. Put the fucking 190 on the 5.5 and be done with it. You get the look and the same handling regardless.
Helpful?????
MaXX
Dion
Feb 3 2005, 06:13 AM
QUOTE(Byrdman)
:pointup:
I didn't know that Canadians typed with an accent too. ROFL!
blackhawkxx
Feb 3 2005, 02:17 PM
QUOTE
I wanted to know if there was a Honda rim that uses a 190 tire
The 1000RR has a 6" rim with a 190. Don't know if it will fit the XX though.
rockmeupto125
Feb 3 2005, 02:32 PM
Precisely, blackhawk. All this posturing hasn't addressed the original question very well.
QUOTE
Is there a rear Honda rim, that will fit on the XX that will allow a 190 tire?
I don't want to jeopardize the handling by making a 190 fit on the stock 5.5" rim.
I don't know of any, StPete, but I'm comfortable with my 190/55. Then again, I ride like an old man.
RichardCranium
Feb 3 2005, 03:35 PM
QUOTE(rockmeupto125)
Precisely, blackhawk. All this posturing hasn't addressed the original question very well.
Whoa...write this down. A thread was hijacked on this board.
Thanks for setting us young rapscallions straight.
QUOTE
I don't know of any, StPete, but I'm comfortable with my 190/55. Then again, I ride like an old man.
So to continue the hijacking: Would you say it improved the handling or worsened it? The word "comfortable" being reletive and all.
rockmeupto125
Feb 3 2005, 04:39 PM
QUOTE
Thanks for setting us young rapscallions straight.
Somebody needs to once in a while.
Wouldn't say it handles any worse or better. If anything, it may feel a little heavier, but despite popular opinion, the XX really doesn't "flick" very well anyway.
Northman
Feb 3 2005, 05:10 PM
QUOTE(rockmeupto125)
Wouldn't say it handles any worse or better. If anything, it may feel a little heavier, but despite popular opinion, the XX really doesn't "flick" very well anyway.
The right setup makes a world of difference, though. :idea:
rockmeupto125
Feb 3 2005, 05:25 PM
It certainly does. Some front end work and that Ohlins you are sporting make a big difference. But that comparison is made to the other bikes that are available in the "handling" category. The XX is pretty much on the grey edge of the sportbike group.
DaveK
Feb 3 2005, 06:25 PM
I asked my dispatcher friend about this tire issue.....
He said, "Get a BUSA".
birdie_xx
Feb 3 2005, 07:31 PM
Don't lie !
Other than Andy, you have no friends ! :twisted:
People here just lust for you, but that's it ........
Reality check !
Cheers,
TOXXIC
Feb 4 2005, 10:02 AM
QUOTE(rockmeupto125)
I ride like an old man.
BULL SHIT. :lol:
QUOTE(TOXXIC)
QUOTE(rockmeupto125)
I ride like an old man.
BULL SHIT. :lol:
lol... That's exactly what I thought...
Fuck, half the people on the board probably couldn't keep up with Joe... Even when he's 2-up with Kale and a big ol givi top-case on the back.
TOXXIC
Feb 4 2005, 05:59 PM
Joe literally sucked my headlight out! :lol:
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