Wondering if anyone has tried Continental tires for the XX and what opinions you may have if you have tried them. Was thinking of the new ContiRoadAttack
ThanX!

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They say:

"New developed Sport-Touring tyre: ContiRoadAttack
The ContiRoadAttack is new high-performance sport-touring tyre with a unique tread pattern. Newly developed High-Impact 0° Steel Belt tyre giving the performance of a sports tyre and the mileage of a touring tyre"

If it's as good or better than the ContiForce's that I run, I will most definitely buy them.

ThanX for your reply, Furbird. I just don't hear many people talking about the Continental brand, good or bad. The MeZ6's that are on now are about ready for a change out. Would like to try something different. Seriously considering Continental's Road Attack tire. Seem to be too new and not yet widely available. The best price I've found yet is:

http://www.onoffroad.com/Merchant2/merchan...TINENTAL-STREET

But, shipping is kinda high... still they can be had delivered for two bills.

Again, I appreciate your feedback!

:smokin:

WOW that is cheap! You can't get a set of ContiForces for that money. I didn't check shipping, but if it's about $10 a tire, it's normal. Tires are expensive because of size and awkward shape, not weight. I might have to scoop a set of those pretty quick.

Think I'm gonna order a rear Attack for my bird this week sometime. Hurricane, that's the best price I've seen on tires in a long time. Think I'll give them a try.

I will be buying a set in a few weeks.

Y'all think the Avon 45 front I have will work good with a Conti Attack rear? It is fine with the POS Dunlop 220 and is a GREAT improvement over the stock 205 front. Don't really want the rear a lot stickier than the front.

I've been looking at the Road Attacks as well. There is a pretty good review of them in the latest CW and the author praises their performance in the wet as well. I think I'll try a pair!

I looked up shipping and it said $24 but when I went through the check-out process it calculated shipping as $157. :evil: I guess I won't be ordering from those guys.

These tires interest me too. I read the write up in Sport Rider, especially liked the part about deeper than normal tread.

With that tread profile (or lack of which) it should be impossible for the front to cup.

My Z6's are doing ok, so I'm hoping some of you guys mount these tires and give us all feedback. :bike:

I'm going to order one tomorrow. Only need the back one since the Avon on the front only has about 2K on it. The tires look like they would work well on the bird.
I'll let you know how the rear handles the twisties in a couple weeks, especially after the dragon and sexxt.

I wonder how the Conti Road Attack rear would work with a M-1 front???

Well you probably already know my opinion on mixing brands front and rear.

JUST DO IT!

I would never get rid of a front tire with 2k miles. THEY COST TOO MUCH!

Since I've owned the bird, I've never had a set of matched tires on it. I feel, as long as the front has good tread on it, run it. I was thinking about putting an Avon rear on it, but the Attack just looks better to me. I have never been a fan of rear tires with a lot of grooves cut into them. The front moves the water out of the way for the rear, and the more rubber on the ground when accelerating, the better.

Jimmystartup, it did the same thing to me. Then I figured out that I hit the scroll part of my mouse while it was highlited and it went to "next day air". Click on "ground" then click on the white part of the page so it doesn't do that. 198.00 shipped to me (didn't order them, just had to check)

Just got through ordering a rear from them. 120.09 to my door. Not bad at all. That's cheaper than most tires without shipping included. Should be here in about a week. :grin:
Guess I'll be the pig (Don't know how to spell guenny :oops: )

They have a write up in the latest issue of Sport Rider and Motorcyclist I believe. Just read about them the last time I took a shit. They took a test ride over in Europe and loved them. Even ran em on a barely thawed road and still stuck. Excellent wet weather traction. Something to do with the makeup of the rubber compound and carbon black content. The tread grooves are 7mm deep compared to 5mm for most other tires. 0 degree steel belts. more flexible carcas with stickier rubber compound. Bigger footprint on road. yada yada yada

the mag liked em. They say there in the hunt with the other big manufactures with this tire.

Shit!!!!!!!!!!

The fuckers are on backorder till June 20th :evil: . That don't cut it. :evil:

I got an Avon 46 on the way :roll: . Next set of tires, I'll try the Attacks

I'm due for a new set; I might try them out.

:cool:

Just checked out the Conti's "in the flesh" at my dealer.

Noted some things you guys might want to know.

They're made in Korea, not Germany. There is a sticker on them about 42 PSI being the min. pressure. On the sidewall 42 is the max press. So I geuss you WILL run 42 PSI. :roll:

There was a lot of rubber flashing from the molding process hanging off the rear I looked at. Will need trimmed off.

The dealer wanted $136 for the rear. :roll:

I'll wait and see what Southwest mototires wants when they offer them.
If the rear is like $100 I might get them.

I just bought a set of Road Attacks from Ride Motorsports in WA for 232 including the state tax. I looked at the side walls and they say Made in Germany, Max Speed 186MPH so I am puzzled about Pete's made in Korea comment.

Have not worn them in yet but they track really nice on the highway and do not hunt along cracks and fissures badly paved roads like my old POS Dunlop 205G.

The Tread is sure cool. :lol:

Received my set of road attacks on Tues. Front made in Korea, rear made in Germany. Be a while before they are installed. Bought because of good deal. 30% off, plus I had a credit at the Honda dealer, plus my regular 15% off. I think they owe me money :shock:

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Any longer term reports on these tires?

I'm having a set put on as I type. I haven't really read any owner reports so far, but I thought I'd try them. They certainly look cool. :cool:

For what it's worth, a friend has a new set of the Conti-Force tires on his T-595 and they handle great and seem to be holding up well.

I'd mentioned in a reply to a different thread that I recently put a set of Tomahawk recaps on my XX (Sport Compound). The grip is phenomenol and assuming they last at least 4K miles without falling apart I'll probably stick with them. Cost per set delivered was about $147.00.

So what color did you go with :?: :?:

I would love to leave RED burnouts on the pavement.

BTW we still need to get together, Were you at Ephrata? What color is your bird?

THESE ARE BULLSHIT TIRES!!!!!!

AVOID!! AVOID!! AVOID!! AVOID!!

The following is a lengthy Warchild Review of the new Continental "Road Attack" tires I just wrote up tonight for the FJR1300 forums. While this review was for the FJR1300, but I can't see it being any better on the XX. :evil:

[b]EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:

These tires are about as fücked up as a soup sandwich. Two thumbs down. Save your money.

Background:

Always keen to expand the range of possible FJR-worthy tires, I read (with some bemusement) some glowing reports of the new Continental "Road Attack" tires a couple of weeks ago. My experience with Continental motorcycle tires has always been poor, though admittedly, the last time I tried them was many years ago. Too, I know a lot of veteran Endurance Riders think the Conti's are generally crap tires, maybe one or two rungs above the Cheng Shin line of Chinese tires. However, these "Road Attacks" were suppose to be "new technology" from Germany, and it had a bunch of glowing marketing hype surrounding it (ex: www.conti-tyres.co.uk/con...attack.htm ), and they could be had for under $200 for the pair. So I thought, what the hell, I'll try 'em.

Mounting the Conti's:

Yesterday (Friday, 23 July), I go down to Sunnyside to mount the new tires on Timex, replacing badly worn BT-020s. When I literally picked up the tires from Guru Glen, the *first* thing that popped into my head was: "DAMN, this feels like some super-soft compound!". And I was right, they were extremely soft, softer than any tire I recall mounting before. Ever. After prying the stiff old rear Bridgestone off, I pretty much knew something was amiss when I was *easily* able to fit not only the entire lower bead of the tire on the rim using only *light* finger pressure, but I could almost - almost put the entire tire on without using tire irons or the Coats machine! Even more troubling were the sidewalls, which were NO WHERE NEAR as stiff as the Bridgestones, Avons, or Pilot Roads. This concerned me greatly, and as I was shortly about to discovered, I had good reason to be concerned.

When I went to seat the bead of the tires (using compressed out without the valve core in place), there was none of the typical loud "POP" noise that usually accompanies seating the bead. The tire beads slipped over the rim as easy as pie. This sent more alarm bells ringing.

I went to balance them, and this is one of the high points of the review: they front took but 5 grams, the rear only 15g. Pretty good.

After reinstalling the wheels back on Timex, I realized I had left my good-quality air pressure gauge at home, so I found a crusty old pencil-style gauge in the bottom of my tool bag, aired them up to 42 psi front and rear, and took off to scrub them in for the 45-mile ride back to Tri-Cities.

Scrub in:

I didn't even go 2 blocks before I realized these tires were a HUGE mistake!

The rear tire literally squirm from a firm yet routine launch from a red light! I was stunned at this. The front was equally bad under heavy braking; the front end was all over the place! I couldn't believe how bad this was! I actually pulled over and checked the tire/wheels carefully before getting on the interstate home. Finding nothing obviously wrong, I started bumming heavily. I got home with only two incidents: a trucker cut me off climbing a steep grade near Prosser, forcing me to squeeze firmly on the front brake. HOLY SHÏT, the front tire squirmed so bad, I though I was going to low-slide! The second incident was the reverse situation, where I had to step down to fourth and punch it to get out of some traffic, and the rear end actually moved around to an alarming degree I never experienced before. I was already kicking myself for wasting $200 bills on these chessy-ass Conti's.

Full-on Road Test:

Fast forward to this morning, Sat, 24 July.

Today I had a 600-mile run around the Columbia Basin that included last minute activity at the Moscow University Inn for WFO-3, so before me 7AM departure, I checked the tire pressure and was surprised (and relieved!) to find that my crusty old pencil-gauge was WAY off the mark: both tires showed only 34psi! YEAH, maybe this was the reason for the crappy performance on the way home yesterday!

Aired them up to 42 psi (accurately, this time), and hit the road to Moscow. Taking the Pasco-Kohlatus Highway (a pleasant mixture of plains, lots of sweepers and a number of good tighter curves), my confidence in the Road Attacks started to improve. They are pretty damn grippy after all, and soon I was leaning Timex over pretty well, though not with the same level of confidence as the Avons. The grip was not to that high level of performance, but I would say they were at least approaching the grip/performance level of the Pilot Roads. Maybe.

Sadly, as the day wore on and got hotter, the problems started to show again. Once again, under *heavy* acceleration, and *hard* braking, I could feel the bike moving around to an alarming degree. To the Conti's credit, even though I was moving around all over, the tires never scared me like the day before, and after 300 or so miles, I was even able to start predicting when they would squirm and start dealing with it. I even took perverse fun in mimicking Ben Bostrom's style of braking down a long straightway, the way his World Superbike Ducati would weave and dance while he was braking hard in setting up for the next turn.

I decided to hit Post Falls and Baudry Motorsports to drool over their three Aprilia Millie Factory bikes they have on their floor, then headed back to the Tri-Citiers. It was hot by the time I reach Washtucna, 105F according to the Datel air temp gauge. The Conti's were simply not up to the task. Both accelerating and braking, I could now get them to squirm at will, and while they never scared me on the way home, they sure didn't inspired any confidence.

When I got home and started research WTF is the deal with the Road Attacks, I found out the reason why I can now safely NOT recommend this tire for the FJR1300 or any heavy sport-touring machine: the sidewalls of both the rear AND the front tires are identical - are you ready for this - BOTH tire sidewalls have ONE, SINGLE ply of nylon. That's it. Nothing else.

Man, I just about blew a gasket! Fücking ONE PLY OF NYLON?!!!!! Damnation, no wonder the monster torque put out by the FJR makes this tire squirm! And no wonder I could just about mount the entire tire using fingers only! The sidewalls are paper-thin!

The sidewalls of Bridgestone BT-020s and Michelin Pilot Roads, in comparison, contain two plies of polyester/nylon.

Interestingly, the tread of the rear Road Attack has 3 plies (one steel, one nylon, one rayon) and is, in fact, made in Germany. Mine had a Dec, 03 build date. The front Road Attack has four (4) plies (2 Aramid, 2 nylon) and is made in Korea. Again, my front was a Dec '03 build.

Bottom Line:

I could see if you are an incredibly gentle rider and weight about 150 lbs, maybe you would like these Conti's.

But if you are a big linebacker type and/or carry a lot of gear, OR, you are an assertive rider who performs hard accelerations and heavy braking as a routine, I WOULD NOT in any way, shape or form recommend these tires for the FJR1300 (edit: and the XX as well! ).

I realize tires are extremely subjective; (one man's bullshit trash is another man's treasure chest, yadda, yadda), but those of you who know me and how I ride also know that I wouldn't bad-mouth tires unless it is absolutely warranted. Save your money. Avoid these bullshít crap tires.

Come on, tell us what you think. :)

At the press launch of these tires in Germany, the editors noticed a lack of high horsepower bikes.

They also reccomend running a few more PSI in the tires, but the max on the sidewall is 42. :roll:

Almost bought these tires, glad I didn't. I'll wait for more input.

Easy to mount though, huh? Could do it in the dealers parking lot without tools.

Pete,
Got the standard black ones since the colored ones run about $129 or so if I remember correctly, and from what I've read the color wears off the tread area fairly quickly anyway. I'm not so sure the Tomahawks are going to be so good in the rain, as I rode home from a friends the other day during a light shower and the bike seemed a little skitish, sort of like my F250 Powerstroke does when wearing BF Goodrich tires that are half worn out. I'm thinking it's due to the same reason as the truck, since the tread sipes stop short of the sidewalls and can't effectively channel water away unless you're riding straight and vertically.

Dale, Thanks for the review. There is nothing good enough about these tires that would make me want to buy them. I feel like I've found Nirvana with the Avons, and I'm going to stick (get it....stick) with them.

Thanks Warchild, that pretty much makes up my mind.

X-rated wrote:

Ditto
Just about bought an Attack before I found out that the shipping date would be to late for my needs and went ahead with the rear Avon to match up with the front. To me the Avon is a very good tire for a "Sport Touring" type tire. The grip is WAY better than the Dunlop 220 that it replaced in both straight line and leaned over. Best tire I've ever run IMHO

Hmm, well, all I can say is, crap. I guess I'll stick with my ContiForces, because I can attest that those are the best tires I have ever had on any motorcycle in my 9 years of riding. 10,000 plus miles on rear tires with mostly straightline and drag racing, with no tire spin. The front lasted about 12,000.

Well, I've got the Road Attacks mounted now but haven't had the chance to get out on the bike yet to try them out. Guess I'll take it easy for a while and see how they do. If I hate them, I can always get some Pilot Roads.

Don't bum out. Just keep an eye on your inflation pressures, and keep us posted on their progress.

Thanks, I will.

Thanks for the detailed review on the Conti Road Attacks on your FJR1300. The wet weight on your FJR1300 is 641lbs compared to the XX's weight of 556lbs a difference of 85lbs . I am a novice rider on an XX and I weigh 195LB and so far I have not noticed any of the problems that you have encountered on your FJR although I admit that I am probably not as extreme rider as you.

Perhaps the problems that you are encountering are due to the Conti Road Attack's load rating is not high enough for the FJR since it almost weighs 100# more than the XX.

So far the Road Attacks have been very confidence inspiring much better than my old Dunlops 205Gs. There is another site on zzr120.net that has also reviewed the Conti Road Attacks see link:

http://www.zzr1200.net/modules.php?name=Fo...der=asc&start=0

Thanks again

Dale, in reference to your sidewall ply count on the rear, I've still got 5 old tires in the basement. (got to find a way to get rid of them)

I checked and both the Avon 46 has 1 ply sidewalls and the Metzeler Z6 (non B version) has 1 ply sidewalls.

I don't think that is the problem.

When you ran them at 34 PSI do you think you damaged them?

Is your good gauge accurate?, I use digital.

I'm good for at least another 4k miles till I need tires so by then the verdict should be in.

Just bumping this one up with the other thread.

Did anyone find the answer to this? Are the Attacks good tires?
Here is a link that I found:[url=www.canyonchasers.net/reviews/accessories/road-attack.php]

Got them. Love them. Sport attack front and road attack rear. About 4000 miles on the so far, huge handling improvement over the stock dunlops and they are wearing much better too, no flat spot and I do a ton of highway. 42psi, checked about every 3-4 weeks. Didn't notice anything that Warchild was ranting about, including the sidewalls. I installed mine myself and definitely needed the irons. Handling has been dead solid. I have them completely chicken-stripless and they have never stepped out, the factory dunlops slid on me quite a few times. Love these tires.


Tread pattern looks cool as hell too.

+1

I've got 3500 miles on mine and love them. Same goes for the mounting. Very stiff sidewalls (compared to the Qualifiers I took off and the stock Stones). I will be buying another set when the time comes.

Surprise. Based on my feedback and many others riders (both here and in Europe), Conti changed the design of the tire sometime last year to eliminate the problems myself and others were seeing (note my original post is over two years old).

The sidewalls were indeed the primary culprit... they stiffened them up considerably from the 2004 version of the tire, which is is why you needed tire irons, but I could literally mount the 2004 version onto the rim with my hands.

Glad you like 'em, but others aren't finding a very good treadlife even on the newer design of the ContiAttacks. Here's a guy's report (posted just yesterday) on his Conti Road Attacks he used on his FJR:



Like I said in my July 2004 review of these Road Attacks, tires are extremely subjective, and unless all riders considering a certain tire all have the same riding style and riding environment, tire comparo's are generally not all that useful.

I read a review on them a couple of months ago in Motorcyclist magazine and they really liked them. They look like a great dry weather tire but without using them, who knows. They may be like the Avons, some people love them (get a million miles on them) and others get no mileage, the front of the bikes shakes and they hate them.

That makes more sense then.

By the way, like I mentioned, I have almost 4000 miles now and I can still read some of the shallow lettering that was molded into the tread. I'm expecting at least the mileage I got from the stock Dunlops which was 8640 before there was no tread in the center 2 inches (no exposed blets though). I do not know what thay guy on the FJR could have possibly done in 2200 miles to do that to the tires he has.

Well, he does ride the big Yammy pretty hard, maybe even unneccessarily hard... perhaps it's an issue involving throttle discipline (rather, lack thereof.... )

Too, the FJR has a good bit more torque than the XX, and weighs a goodly bit more as well. So this, couple with an overly enthusiastic throttle hand, no doubt contributes to his abbreviated treadlife.