SwampNut Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Excuse the motorcycle content, and if anyone wants to fuck my mom over it, please PM me for her number. Also I will not meet you to fight if you think your brush choice is better than mine. So these days, "everyone" is using brushes to clean o-ring and x-ring chains. That used to be a bad thing. Now it seems like it is actually much better. I never noticed the change, as I was riding shafties and dirt bikes for a long time. Opinions? And go with the mainstream Grunge Brush or something else? They're all relatively cheap so I'd lean to the aluminum one for $16. I'm using Motorex cleaning spray and Bel-Ray dry chain lube if anyone would like to insult my grandmother too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBLXX Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Can you remove this thread from the political pub and put it in its right place. Your moms vag ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 LOL, I moved it to the garage where I intended to post it, and where it belongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBLXX Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Krypt Keeper Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I still use a grunge brush and kerosene takes maybe 5 minutes total scrub really good, wipe down, scrub down again, wipe down really good. Use some dupont chain wax I found at lowes in between scrub downs. got 26k miles out of last chain, still in limits but developed a tight link and front sprocket was due as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 Good to know. FYI, Revzilla did a test where they found that kerosene had a small but measurable swelling effect on the rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Knievel Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I just used kerosene and a rag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I have always just put a little kerosene on a rag and wiped but I only ride in nice weather and no dirt roads. 1 hour ago, SwampNut said: Good to know. FYI, Revzilla did a test where they found that kerosene had a small but measurable swelling effect on the rings. I will have to search for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Sorry, it was advrider.com, found it in my history. https://advrider.com/f/threads/chain-o-ring-wd-40-exposure-effects-study-and-results.345397/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Also note that I just very flatly stated the results, I do not have any opinion on whether such a tiny change matters. Just posted for everyone to make an informed choice. I'm going to stick with chain cleaner because it's still dirt cheap to buy a bottle once a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Being how I have been using PJ1 chain lube and it is listed as worse than kerosene, I may have to rethink this. Though it does say that it has negligible impact. When I do use kero, I don't soak the chain with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 And who knows, maybe swelling is GOOD and keeps dirt out? Dunno. We can be pretty sure the carb cleaner and gas results are bad though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John01XX Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) I have always just used a clean rag and spray WD40 on the rag and wiped down the chain. It was always said to never spray WD-40 directly on the chain as it is a penetrant and not a lubricant. Spraying on the rag made it easy to wipe off the gunk on the chain. I will be following this thread as well for others opinions and experiences. I now have over 20,000 on my current chain. Still looks like brand new with virtually no stretching or kinks. Can't remember the brand, EK maybe, but was suppose to be the best of the best with forged links verses stamped metal links like the DID. Looked it up and I bought the RK530 MaxZ chain. Had the highest tensile strength and has forged links instead of stamped metal links. Has the longest life guarantee at 20,000 miles over the DID at 115,000 miles. Suppose to be a new fangled Z-ring or modified X-ring design that maintains the sealed internal lubricant better or so they claim. Edited October 30, 2018 by John01XX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 I think applying it to the chain as a spray is not an issue as compared to applying it on a rag. Either way, you're using the solvent effect as a cleaner only. I think it's *possibly* a bad choice because it leaves a film that may then reject the actual lube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John01XX Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The theory was that if applying WD-40 to an X-ring chain, it will penetrate the seals and degrade the internal lubricant. By applying it to the rag only it only cleans the surface gunk from the chain. If chain lube/wax was applied properly gunk has no way to get to the seals and remains on the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXBirdSlapper Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 WD-40 destroys chains, firearms, and high end fishing reels. It's made and promoted by manufacturers of chains, firearms, and fishing reels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Krypt Keeper Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Not leaving the chain soaked for 24hrs as in the test. There is some residual kero left but most all is wiped away within minutes or flung off. Chain is all shiny and clean, don't forget to rinse off your grunge brush also... carb or brake clean will swell the crap out of rubber. Learned that mistake years ago when rebuilding the carbs on a kawi 454 ltd Let them sit for a day or so and fit again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 The few times I've cleaned I used SuperClean, Grunge Brush, and water. After rinsing I grab 6th gear on the center stand and rip it up to high speed for a bit to dry it off, then lube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just remembered that I have a metric fuck ton of WD-40, and finally a use for it after reading about chain cleaning with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXitanium Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just don't make the toilet seats stand at attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR71BLACKBIRDXX Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I never liked the brush. Worked ok, but the bristles would fling shit everywhere. Spent half the day cleaning the swingarm, rim, and garage floor. Now, I alternating between a kerosene rag and a clean one to get the desired cleanliness. Still using the Honda chain lube in the blue can. Stuff works great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redxxrdr Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 57 minutes ago, SR71BLACKBIRDXX said: I never liked the brush. Worked ok, but the bristles would fling shit everywhere. Spent half the day cleaning the swingarm, rim, and garage floor. Now, I alternating between a kerosene rag and a clean one to get the desired cleanliness. Still using the Honda chain lube in the blue can. Stuff works great Same experience. But just use a clean shop towel, just after my ride. When the chain is warm. 500 mile intervals, sooner if the ride was in rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I don't think that my chain was warm when I got home last night. ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 Last night my chain was warm, TPMS said tires at around 100 degrees, and the kickstand spring got so hot it jumped off the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 You know you were passed by a computer geek when he has that instead of a trusty spool of bailing wire on his bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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