sokanxx Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 I am looking at purchasing the Factory "Pro Shift Kit" the kit is only like $90 so it sounds like a pretty good deal. Anyone have one mountd up on their XX? Parts Unlimited only shows this kit available for 97-98 XX's (I dont know why it wouldn't fit an FI bike) I am looking for a little guidance in if this shift kit is worth getting. I posted this topic over on cbrxx while .org was down and still have not gotten any feedback so i hope you guys can be of better help. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmeupto125 Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Which shift kit...as in...what's in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokanxx Posted February 4, 2007 Author Share Posted February 4, 2007 Here is a link to the product http://www.solomotoparts.com/product.php?productid=23972 Here is the factory pro website link http://www.factorypro.com/ Click on the red bok in the upperleft corner that says catalog and search for the XX There are two shift kits available the one linked above for $90 and one for $200 they call a Shift STAR kit. I am totally willing to drop the coin on either kit if they are actually worth the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmeupto125 Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Only your pocketbook can make that decision. The XX shifts fine without either addition. It just shifts better with them. If you want to save some bucks and get a smoother shift, get the less expensive kit. If you want to shift faster and have more positive engagement, get the whole shebang. They work well, are easy to install, and removable if you tire of it. I like mine. I will remark that after a day of constantly rowing through the gears in places like Deals Gap, my foot is pretty sore pushing against that stiffer spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokanxx Posted February 4, 2007 Author Share Posted February 4, 2007 rockmeupto125: Which kit do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB4XX Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 I have a White Brothers shift kit in my 97XX. Definitly shifts harder than stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmeupto125 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 rockmeupto125: Which kit do you have? I wouldn't have commented so broadly if I didn't have all of it. I just didn't buy it in a single kit, but piecemeal. Sum total of what I have would be the Star kit. I believe White Brothers just market the FactoryPro kit, Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokanxx Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 One final question, Its squidly I know! but will this kit make it more difficult to shift gears while riding wheelies or would it make it easier?? I like the idea of never missing a 1 to 2 shift but a stiff spring could make things more difficult?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB4XX Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 You'll have a more positive feel when you shift. I've never had a wheelie last long enuf to shift so I'm not really qualified to answer. I would think you would want an easier shift like the stock setup when you are up on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Does it just change the feel of the shift or does it actually provide a better, more positive engagement of the dogs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmeupto125 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 It doesn't do anything inside the transmission, so it won't affect how the dogs engage. What it does effect is the speed and surety of the shifting mechanism. The kit consists of three essential parts. 1. A stiffer spring. This puts more push on the shift shaft to get into the next gear. 2. A roller spring guide. This allows the stiffer spring to float instead of just binding up on the stock bushing because there's now too much pressure. 3. A reshaped detent wheel. The more aggressive ramping of the detent wheel combines with the stiff spring to bring the transmission into the next gear more forcefully. Bottom line is that you need more pressure to shift...until about halfway through the lever throw. After that, the spring and detent virtually yank the thing into the next gear. That soft little flip that a standard XX will shift with is gone. I installed the components because the soft touch was resulting in the occasional missed shift for me. I was pleased enough with the improvement from installing the spring and roller that I went out on a limb and tried the upgraded detent wheel as well. I like it....I very seldom miss a shift. But as I said, spring pressure is probably 1.5 times stock...the only real-world negative, other than the wallet being lighter by a couple of horsepower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmeupto125 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Look up factorymarc on Ebay. Might be some connection there, y'think? Should be about $180. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Awesome input Joe, thanks........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I have the Pro shift kit, but don't have the Star option. Joe, are you aware if you can buy the star separately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmeupto125 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 That's what I did. I just called and told them I already had the spring/roller kit, loved it, and would it be possiblt to get the Star separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 That's what I did. I just called and told them I already had the spring/roller kit, loved it, and would it be possiblt to get the Star separately. Cost? I'm guessing around $100 (price difference in the kits) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmeupto125 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Can't remember. It was at least a year ago, cuz I actually took pictures to make an instructional, and never got around to it....but was wearing _warm_ clothing in those pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokanxx Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 Thanks for the info. I will go ahead and order the enire STAR kit. Probibly be a month before I can review since it has been so cold here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbird1100 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I didn't know they made one for the XX? You have to do the star though. I just finished putting one on my F4 and it was a pain but at least it won't be jumping out of gear anymore. I bet it works real nice on an XX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB4XX Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 The shift kit does give a nice positive feel. I have traded bikes with Walt and a few others and you can really tell a difference versus stock. +1 on everything Joe said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokanxx Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 Silverbird1100: how was it a pain. was installation difficult? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northman Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Silverbird1100: how was it a pain. was installation difficult? It's easy. The most difficult part is removing the clutch basket, and the spring loaded gear on the crankshaft. You don't even need to drain any oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbird1100 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 If you search my post you'll see i'm an impatient idiot so for me it was a pain in the ass. Overall it's no different than taking apart your forks or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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