silverbird1100 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Pretty damn happy with the install on these, haven’t tried them though due to weather. https://electricalconnection.com/index.php/product/led-headlight-bulb-h7-honda-type-gl1800-f6b/ https://www.madhornets.com/front-turn-signals-for-lens-honda-cbr1100xx-1999-2006-clear/ https://undergroundlighting.com/products/1157-switchback-dual-color-60-smd-led-drl-turn-signal-light-bulbs-white-amber 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I hate white turn signals, so I went another route. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NXS9RHB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832674042489.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.173.7ebd18021v2oid&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251801795989449.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.178.7ebd18021v2oid&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074RFSFVT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Bonus bling: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832727346849.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.168.7ebd18021v2oid&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzy Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 As LEDs consume less power than incandescent bulbs, counterintuitively, they put more strain on the charging system. More specifically, the R/R. If you go all LED, then upgrade the R/R to a real deal (as opposed to fake, which online sites are littered with) mosfet type. Home (roadstercycle.com) Not a bad idea to upgrade anyway, as this new kit is far superior. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampNut Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 My onboard espresso machine consumes most of the excess power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbird1100 Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 4 hours ago, fizzy said: As LEDs consume less power than incandescent bulbs, counterintuitively, they put more strain on the charging system. More specifically, the R/R. If you go all LED, then upgrade the R/R to a real deal (as opposed to fake, which online sites are littered with) mosfet type. Home (roadstercycle.com) Not a bad idea to upgrade anyway, as this new kit is far superior. I didn’t know that, why does it stress the r/r? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 31 minutes ago, silverbird1100 said: I didn’t know that, why does it stress the r/r? The R/R has to absorb all the power not being consumed by other things. Basically, it's a regulated short circuit that turns all the excess power into heat, which is why they get hot, which is likely closely related to their failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 8 hours ago, superhawk996 said: The R/R has to absorb all the power not being consumed by other things. Basically, it's a regulated short circuit that turns all the excess power into heat, which is why they get hot, which is likely closely related to their failure. Which is why living in the north is better for your Bird. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbird1100 Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 12 hours ago, superhawk996 said: The R/R has to absorb all the power not being consumed by other things. Basically, it's a regulated short circuit that turns all the excess power into heat, which is why they get hot, which is likely closely related to their failure. Is there a way to test your r/r? Or they either work or they don’t? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzy Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, silverbird1100 said: Is there a way to test your r/r? Or they either work or they don’t? Recommend you install a small voltmeter on the dash. Voltage should be mid 12V to MAX 14.5V. Low voltage is usually either a bad battery or a weak stator High voltage is almost always a bad R/R. High voltage, ride straight home at 1500rpm. The old style R/R (OEM on blackbird) will get quite hot during normal use. New style R/R (FH012AA, FH020AA, SH847) as explained in the link I left in previous post, do not get hot. Heat is the enemy of small electrical devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 4 hours ago, silverbird1100 said: Is there a way to test your r/r? Or they either work or they don’t? The manual may have a procedure, not sure. If the rectifier portion fails, the part that turns the stator's AC into DC, I expect low or no charging. If the regulator portion fails, what controls voltage, it could cause over charging or undercharging. A simple voltmeter test can tell you if it's working, but won't alert you while driving unless you install something on the bike. A voltmeter, as Fizzy said, or there's another system that uses a single color changing light to indicate charging. I have the light on mine, it will indicate low, normal, or high battery voltage. Mine's mounted to the top of the instrument cluster in the gap below the windscreen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbird1100 Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 On 2/25/2023 at 9:11 AM, fizzy said: Recommend you install a small voltmeter on the dash. Voltage should be mid 12V to MAX 14.5V. Low voltage is usually either a bad battery or a weak stator High voltage is almost always a bad R/R. High voltage, ride straight home at 1500rpm. The old style R/R (OEM on blackbird) will get quite hot during normal use. New style R/R (FH012AA, FH020AA, SH847) as explained in the link I left in previous post, do not get hot. Heat is the enemy of small electrical devices. I actually do have one, I'll keep an eye in it. 12-14.5V seems like a pretty wide range, seem to remember it steady around 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 5 hours ago, silverbird1100 said: I actually do have one, I'll keep an eye in it. 12-14.5V seems like a pretty wide range, seem to remember it steady around 14 While cruising I'd expect it to be around 14, at low RPM it'll drop. How much and how fast it drops depends on how much power is being used and how strong the battery is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaBr Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 This link is also useful... Charging system fault finding diagram 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXX Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 2/24/2023 at 1:12 AM, silverbird1100 said: Pretty damn happy with the install on these, haven’t tried them though due to weather. https://electricalconnection.com/index.php/product/led-headlight-bulb-h7-honda-type-gl1800-f6b/ https://www.madhornets.com/front-turn-signals-for-lens-honda-cbr1100xx-1999-2006-clear/ https://undergroundlighting.com/products/1157-switchback-dual-color-60-smd-led-drl-turn-signal-light-bulbs-white-amber How have the LED headlights turned out? I may be replacing the HID’s on my bike pretty soon and am interested. Is focus an issue? Are they plug & play or did you have to fiddle with installation? I remember hearing stuff about projectors and stuff like that. Anything to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) I installed HID's in mine, turned night into day. Then installed a computer fan bolted to the R/R to keep it cooler, also put a volt meter in the right mirror. Then a powered oilier, then a cruise control, then ---- I guess I'll keep it. Edited December 17, 2023 by OMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbird1100 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, RXX said: How have the LED headlights turned out? I may be replacing the HID’s on my bike pretty soon and am interested. Is focus an issue? Are they plug & play or did you have to fiddle with installation? I remember hearing stuff about projectors and stuff like that. Anything to it? It's all working like new. As far as the extra R/R heat, I ran my old XX with the headlight (-edit- off)) for 50K and never had a problem. So I'm not too worried about these LED pulling less power. Edited December 18, 2023 by silverbird1100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXX Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 15 hours ago, OMG said: I installed HID's in mine, turned night into day. Then installed a computer fan bolted to the R/R to keep it cooler, also put a volt meter in the right mirror. Then a powered oilier, then a cruise control, then ---- I guess I'll keep it. Both my birds have/had HID. Same for pro-oiler. Oscar got the CC from BB1 and I will put one on my current one if I can find one. Is yours the Autovox setup? I have VM also. 3 actually. One in RH mirror that was transplanted from BB1, one on right of fuel tank, and one in the power adapter. I stay busy keeping them synchronized, like old SU carb setup on British sports cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 On 12/18/2023 at 7:38 AM, RXX said: Autovox setup Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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