blackhawkxx Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I was looking up Honda OEM oil filters for the Bird and they are showing two different ones which I never noticed before. Does anyone know what's up with that and does it matter which one to get? https://www.motosport.com/oem-parts/honda/1997/blackbird-_-cbr1100xx/oil-pump 14 15410-MFJ-D02 FILTER, OIL (WAKO FILTER)Supersedes: 15410-MFJ-D01 (FILTER, OIL (TOYO ROKI)) $16.58 $15.25 In Stock ADD TO CART 14 15410-MFJ-D02 FILTER, OIL (WAKO FILTER)Supersedes: 15410-MM9-013 (FILTER, OIL (TOYO ROKI)) $16.58 $15.25 In Stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 One might be slightly bigger, etc. 15 bucks for oem filter is too much in my book, I've using Yamaha's filter on anything I own with two wheels or rotary engines. If you look at cross reference for aftermarket filters many Japanese bikes use same filter anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 It looks like one filter supercedes two different filters, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, tomek said: It looks like one filter supercedes two different filters, right? Yup. They're both the same part # superseding two different part numbers, maybe one of those was a supersede of the other. There's a bunch of filters that work in place of the motorcycle branded ones. One of the Bird versions, don't remember if it's the carb or EFI, has a little more room and allows for more options. I used a Purolator PureOne on one of my Birds but don't remember which. I think I've also used a Motorcraft, but that might have been a different bike. PureOne (AKA Motorcraft) are great filters. Motorcraft are cheap at Walmart, but they only carry the common sellers. Last I checked the Walmart Supertech filters were from Champion Labs and they were pretty good, especially for the price, but they have visibly changed and I haven't researched them to see if the quality is still there. Here's a list of options. These Oil Filters have M20x1.5 threads, 14 psi by-pass valve, anti-drain back valve, 2.3" O.D. gasket 2.5" to 3.5" long. If you have the room, I recommend the longer filters. Purolator has changed their filters from a concave to a convex fitting surface, so they no longer seal on some motorcycles. Motorcycle Filters AC Delco PF2135 AMSOil SMF103 Carquest 85358 AC Delco PF2135 FRAM PH6017A Honda 15410-MCJ-000 K&N KN-204, about $13. Metric nut on end for easy removal. Mobil M1MC-134 NAPA Gold 1358 Purolator ML16817. Imported, not made by Purolator. STP SMO 17 WIX 51358 Recommended filters. All have superior filtering. About 2.5 inches long. Purolator One PL14612, about $6. Mobil M1-108, about $12. Made by Champion. Bosch 3300, about $6. Made by Champion. Wal-Mart SuperTech ST6607 Made by Champion. HKS 52009-AK005, About $35. Not quite as good at filtering as those above, but very low drag on the oil. Used by all serious racing teams. In racing applications should be changed every 5-15 hours. About 3.25 inches long. Purolator One PL14610, about $6. Purolator Boss PBL14610. Royal Purple 10-2808. Mobil 1 M1-110, about $10. Made by Champion. Mobil M1MC-134 Bosch 3323, about $6. Made By Champion. WalMart SuperTech ST7317, about $2. Made by Champion. Automobile Filters, about 2.5 inches long. AC Delco PF1237 Baldwin B1400 Firestone TF2876 Hastings LF113 NAPA Gold 1365 Purolator L14612 STP S-02876 WalMart SuperTech ST6607 WIX 51365 Automobile Filters, about 3.25 inches long. AC Delco PF-2057 Auto Pro 2356 Autopride CF240AP Baldwin B1402 Carquest 85356 Carquest Red B4620 Casite CF240 Castrol 7317 Champion Labs Ph2867 Defense Filters Dl7317 Deutsch D-370 Federated Filters LF240F Fram Double Guard DG7317 Fram PH7317 Automobile Filters, about 3.25 inches long. Fram Tough Guard TG7317 Fram Xtra Guard XG7317 Group 7 V4610 Group 7 V4620 Hastings LF240 Mighty M4612 Millard ML-3593 Motorcraft Long Life FL-821 Napa FIL1356 Napa Gold 1356 Parts Plus PH2867 Pennzoil PZ-109 Penske 7317 Powerflo SL14610 Powerflo SL14620 Pro Gauge PGO-4620 Pro Tec 164 Promotive PH4610 Pronto PO3593A Purolator L14610 Service Champ OF-4622 Shell SH48 Shell SH529 Stp S-02867. Valvoline VO50 Warner PH2867 Wix 51356 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superhawk996 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Make sure you only use Honda branded oil too, not some generic crap. 🙂 I used Motul 300V 10-40 last time. It's stupid $, but the shift feel is so great I might keep doing it. The oil looks and smells like no other, it's green and has a sweet fruity smell. Tastes different after use, but still ok. It does't mix with rum so I tossed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomek Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) I would not use Walmart super tech filter in mcycle application where it is exposed to potential damage by running over some shit, etc. The outer shell is paper thin, and it easily crashed when I tried to remove it from rx7. Seems like accident waiting to happen, literally, once you get oil on your rear tire you can kiss your ass good bye. BTW, if you wanna cross reference car filter for xx get one for mazda rx8. Edited November 22, 2021 by tomek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhawkxx Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 I like using a Honda motorcycle filters on my bikes. Two filters a year without thought of which is right and best is worth the $10 or $15 I might save to me. Oil has been Mobil 1 5qt jugs but it also went up $5 at Walmart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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